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RECCIE RUN no.2 - For the 2014 high country G.T.G
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Originally posted by barajak View PostWe did the right thing and continued on the logging Rd for option number 2. Fortunately this was not closed but has been touched up with some fine dozer work that has turned what was definitely a top ten 4wd track into a top five. This track was un-describably beautiful with cobalt sky, red dirt and the views. Did I mention the driving, it is steep enough that if it does not alter your heart rate, it is because your dead. This is one track I am going to recommend petrol autos not try as you will not be able to control them. Some of the humpies on this track would be over three metres high and slopes recorded at 37°.Last edited by fido666; 17-06-2013, 07:25 PM.
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Looking forward to this GTG.
It will be a good excuse to fit the winch and snorkel, then anything else I can think of.04 GXL - Red Centa dual battery, Alloy B/bar, BFG AT's, Rhino Rack commercial bars x 3, GME TX3540, TJM roof cage, Outback Ideas recovery points, LHS rear drawer, 2" Dobinsons/Bilstein lift, ARB CKMA12 air compressor, CoilRite airbags, ARB 2.5m awning, MCC Dual Wheel Carrier, Eagle Eye headlights with 55w hid lo beam.
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Originally posted by fido666 View PostWas this steep slope uphill or downhill James? I'm just asking because you mention it not being suitable for petrol autos in terms of being able to control them and wondering why that is. Having watched through Sav's videos it looks like you had quite a few steep climbs to navigate.Prado Polar White 150 GX 3.0 TD Auto. HR TB, ARB delux bar, Hella R2000 lights, Magnum winch, ARB 50mm lift, BFG AT 265/70R17 on 71/2" alloys, Alloy side steps, Rhino sport bars, Tint, UHF, Scangauge, Aux batt (ABR kit), Cargo barrier, 50l water tank, Storage system, Elec brake con. ARB compressor
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A time comes in decents that you cannot beat a diesel manual.
This track was around 30 degrees and a few touches over, now this steep!
The track conditions were very good, as in traction was very good.
There were a few slippery sections of red clay, if the was anything from a little wetter to a lot wetter, it starts to rule out what vehicles could get up or down safely.
I think it was myself on the day that said, petrol auto might struggle to decent the safely.
Now with the traction aids on the kaka, it would likely have been ok on the day, but any wetter and you would be testing any vehicle and or the drivers ability.
It's just not possible in these slippery conditions that brakes even with aids can keep you under control, only the engine is smooth enough to do this safely.
Simply autos run a little faster than the manuals & the petrols have much less compression to keep the speed down.
One you get going too fast on a steep slippery clay track like this, there will be no stopping you.
Once there are ruts, it might be safer, but as it was just graded, you will go with gravity
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Sounds like a good excuse to get the Nomad valve body and manual lock up kit fitted before the GTG
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On this run, all tyres did well as the traction was good.
Personally I'm now using bfg a/t.
If they can't do it, I don't need to do it. All your going to do is rip up the track.
I've had km2 muddies many other tyres & most conditions I Find the a/t do the job.
In the Vic high country many hills are rocky shaily so reccomended strong tyres.
I would worry too much about what tyres for it, just avoid stock tyres like grand trek.
Hope that helps somewhat.
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Thanks ####, Im getting new tyres next week (at long last) still hadn't made my mind up which ones to get either mud or A/T's. I am running two sets of rims. I don't want to gouge the alloys like I did the old 90 so I have bought 5 steel rims from the later 120GX so they are the same width and diameter as the GXL alloys. Few people I spoke to tonight in the club have recommended the Bridgestone D697, seem to have a pretty good review as well. I have always run BF A/T's but was thinking some thing different this time. I was thinking muddies all along but seems to be overkill for what I intend doing.........Cheers SteveFace lift 150 Prado V6 auto. No mods yet
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Originally posted by Steve M View PostFew people I spoke to tonight in the club have recommended the Bridgestone D697, seem to have a pretty good review as well. I have always run BF A/T's but was thinking some thing different this time.
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Originally posted by Steve M View PostThanks ####, Im getting new tyres next week (at long last) still hadn't made my mind up which ones to get either mud or A/T's. I am running two sets of rims. I don't want to gouge the alloys like I did the old 90 so I have bought 5 steel rims from the later 120GX so they are the same width and diameter as the GXL alloys. Few people I spoke to tonight in the club have recommended the Bridgestone D697, seem to have a pretty good review as well. I have always run BF A/T's but was thinking some thing different this time. I was thinking muddies all along but seems to be overkill for what I intend doing.........Cheers Steve
Km2 on those steel rims & Stz on alloys.
Tired of having 2 sets, got rid of them.
I think if you go to the trouble of having steel rims then put muddies on them, my choice would be Mtz or km2.
I think the Bridgestone are a good tyre too, but I'm sticking with bfg a/t or Mickey Stz for my a/t.
Maybe you need 2 sets lol......
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Originally posted by Anth120playdo View PostThen there's always the hybrid: (in between) MT atz4rib. Or cooper stmax.
I agree with ####'s comments that Muddies would really be overkill for the tracks proposed on the GTG as most of them are fast-draining shail/rock. A good A/T tyre would be more than adequate.150GXL 3.0D4D Auto, White, ARB Deluxe Winch Bar, iCom ic440 Pro UHF, Safari Snorkel, Rhino Bars and Platform Rack, Dual Battery System, Brown Davis underbody protection, Cooper ST MAXX Tyres, Lovells Springs & Shockers & 2" lift
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Probably be fair to say that the sidewall should be as strong as you can get it as they will rub against rocks. Good open tread on the shoulders is going to be a big help in the wet.Prado Polar White 150 GX 3.0 TD Auto. HR TB, ARB delux bar, Hella R2000 lights, Magnum winch, ARB 50mm lift, BFG AT 265/70R17 on 71/2" alloys, Alloy side steps, Rhino sport bars, Tint, UHF, Scangauge, Aux batt (ABR kit), Cargo barrier, 50l water tank, Storage system, Elec brake con. ARB compressor
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