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Originally posted by skirulz View PostThats a good price but unattainable so far in Sydney. i had to settle for 62k with two bar, front sensors, mats, metallic and full tank of diesel.
Interesting I paid 66k for my 2010 Prado from the same dealer, the car is written off after a accident
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Originally posted by cuda View PostIts funny all these comments V6 resale considering just normal dealer is offering 27k for a 09 VX Prado with 125k on the clock. Carsales also seems to indicate V6's are selling ok. Tag some and watch how long they take to sell with a decent price. Always the diesel vs petrol debate creates some interesting story and feedback. The sad story about diesel is that its a big polluter and European's are starting to take notice. Its great to see Diesel reduces the CO2 produced but the trade off is far worse. Heres a snippet from a recent article.
Diesels produce 15% less CO2 than petrol, but emit four times more nitrogen dioxide pollution (NO2) and 22 times more particulates - the tiny particles that penetrate the lungs, brain and heart.
As new research shows that diesel fumes are worse than expected for health, triggering cancers, heart attacks and the stunting of children’s growth, many politicians have admitted a major environmental mistake.
Complete article http://www.theguardian.com/environme...alth-pollution
This might make you think twice about diesel vs petrol debate.
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Originally posted by robaarrgghh View PostGoing back a bit quoting this, and a bit of a side point but very good point here. If we are also prepared to pay for the extra, at least 3.5L/100 fuel cost as well. Also excluding the extra fuel costs, it would be interesting to hear peoples thought re: environmental impact comparing using less diesel per 100km VS using more of the cleaner unleaded. Avoid all DPF EGR etc issues also. I think think the petrol would come up better for the environment. Maybe more of us should consider this. I too have the toyota diesel instilled in my mind as a necessity of longevity and value but this is always worth considering. I mean a petrol Toyota's still have that legendary quality instilled within... corolla, rav4's, all stood the test of time. Also what is it?, 207kw out of the 2.8L 1GR-FE ? At least you get a whole lot more power for the extra cost (cleaner) fuel.
my mate has the 3.7L petrol FJ, which averages about 18L/100 around town if you want to drive 'normally' ie. 'not feathering the accelerator everywhere', and then 20L/100 + offroad/sand and maaaybe 13-15L highway... so therefore your fuel is used pretty quickly touring or if you needed to tow anything...
NOW.... waiting for the new series of prado's and cruisers, here's hoping we get some petrol/hybrid versions.
SAMUEL[I]Maroochydore, Sunshine Coast, Queensland[/I]
1999 Toyota Landcruiser Prado RV 4cyl 2.7L Manual, Lifted 2-3" on Dobinson Springs & Shocks, Cooper STT Max Mud-Terrains in 235/85R16 all-round 32", Custom no Bullbar winch mount with Runva 11XP Winch, Black Sliders, 10000 Lumen, LED Lightbar
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Of course and agree. This is the BIG reason isn't it. I've been reading more into if and found this graph interesting, noting that the 1GD is euro 5 compliant, you can see the massive drop in particle emissions from euro 3 and 4. I'm just trying to figure out, from the article CUDA originally posted (the guardian one), it quotes "Diesels produce 15% less CO2 than petrol, but emit four times more nitrogen dioxide pollution (NO2) and 22 times more particulates". The particles begin the concerning figure
I'm interested to know if its euro 5 or is it euro 4 that is compared to when quoting "22 times the particles", because ifs its euro 4 that is has 22 times more, then Euro 5 would have about one fifth of the particles compares to euro 4 and that's a GREAT improvement, but also that still leaves us with 4-5 times more than petrol (assuming facts from article)
If you can afford the extra fuel and you have a lot of stop/start/loading kids etc in and out exposure to diesel fumes while cars are running with aircon on in hot days etc, then maybe it seems we could be at a much better point to not worry about particles as much, depending if eruo 4 or 5 is the one with 22 times the particules than petrol
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[QUOTE=juc33_prado;565122]only problem is fuel economy... or lack there of....
my mate has the 3.7L petrol FJ, which averages about 18L/100 around town if you want to drive 'normally' ie. 'not feathering the accelerator everywhere', and then 20L/100 + offroad/sand and maaaybe 13-15L highway... so therefore your fuel is used pretty quickly touring or if you needed to tow anything...
How about comparing a late model petrol Prado instead of of much older generation petrol engine. My 2013 GXL V6 is consistently returning 10.9L /100 on the highway (scangauge). Granted its a standard vehicle with no mods.
Regards...Mick
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Originally posted by Richie View PostJust purchased new 2.8 GXL in White,tow bar rubber mats and full tank for 61,000.Best I could get here in Perth
Went V6 as we do a lot of country driving (not towing) and I want the pick up speed to overtake a 42 metre road train.
Third Prado from Scarboro Toyota Perth.
Picked the wrong time of the month and the year to buy this one so couldn’t get the $800 off that I reckon was still there!
Still they had what I wanted in the yard, so only a week for pickup.
As stated by others Stamp Duty (paid $4043) is a killer in WA.
Tried AHG but they didn’t seem interested in haggling.
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2016 Prado GXL 2.8L Turbo Diesel Automatic
Metallic Paint
Towbar
All Weather Floor Mats
Cargo Mat
$62k including on road costs/stamp duty/12 months Rego/Full tank of fuel.
Adelaide Metro Region
Several dealers were unable or unwilling to go below $63,990k which was a common price quoted.
In addition to the extremely helpful advise in this forum, consider the following:
1. Negotiate a price for the vehicle first before any discussions about trade in vehicle. We found trade in prices were artificially inflated rather than movement on new vehicle price. our experience was trade in prices started low (below market value) resulting in negotiations for better value for your existing asset (dealer approaching market value), taking your focus off getting a better deal on the new vehicle. The results in the perception of a good deal but in reality you are getting market value for your existing asset and minimal discount on a new vehicle.
2. If you are trading in a vehicle, do your homework and determine the best price you can get for your asset via the dealer/wholesaler/auction or private sale etc. Redbook will give some reasonable indication for trade in and private values. Research online sales allowing for the fact commercial sellers will mark up to make a profit, have margin to negotiate and provide a warranty. Consider what level of effort you want to contribute towards selling a vehicle (if any) as you may gain substantially more value by selling privately.
3. Further refine your deal with the options. If they are not bundled or you receive minimal benefit to purchasing with the vehicle you can purchase genuine accessories after the initial purchase.
4. Be cautious about dealer extras such as paint protection, tinting or extended warranties. We were quoted prices 300% more expensive than public RRP. We also found these to be presented after a deal was finalized, which has the potential to undo all of your efforts. Again all of these can be done post purchase if you require.
5. It goes without saying dealers need to turn a profit otherwise they would not be in business. There is more to a purchase other than cost such as ongoing service and support.
6. The goal is to strike a compromise. Work out in advance you are willing to pay and work to that number.
7. Set realistic expectations, be prepared to adjust them and accept a deal when it meets. Be patient and walk away if required.
Hope That Helps
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Originally posted by Random View Post2016 Prado GXL 2.8L Turbo Diesel Automatic
Metallic Paint
Towbar
All Weather Floor Mats
Cargo Mat
$62k including on road costs/stamp duty/12 months Rego/Full tank of fuel.
Adelaide Metro Region
Several dealers were unable or unwilling to go below $63,990k which was a common price quoted.
In addition to the extremely helpful advise in this forum, consider the following:
1. Negotiate a price for the vehicle first before any discussions about trade in vehicle. We found trade in prices were artificially inflated rather than movement on new vehicle price. our experience was trade in prices started low (below market value) resulting in negotiations for better value for your existing asset (dealer approaching market value), taking your focus off getting a better deal on the new vehicle. The results in the perception of a good deal but in reality you are getting market value for your existing asset and minimal discount on a new vehicle.
2. If you are trading in a vehicle, do your homework and determine the best price you can get for your asset via the dealer/wholesaler/auction or private sale etc. Redbook will give some reasonable indication for trade in and private values. Research online sales allowing for the fact commercial sellers will mark up to make a profit, have margin to negotiate and provide a warranty. Consider what level of effort you want to contribute towards selling a vehicle (if any) as you may gain substantially more value by selling privately.
3. Further refine your deal with the options. If they are not bundled or you receive minimal benefit to purchasing with the vehicle you can purchase genuine accessories after the initial purchase.
4. Be cautious about dealer extras such as paint protection, tinting or extended warranties. We were quoted prices 300% more expensive than public RRP. We also found these to be presented after a deal was finalized, which has the potential to undo all of your efforts. Again all of these can be done post purchase if you require.
5. It goes without saying dealers need to turn a profit otherwise they would not be in business. There is more to a purchase other than cost such as ongoing service and support.
6. The goal is to strike a compromise. Work out in advance you are willing to pay and work to that number.
7. Set realistic expectations, be prepared to adjust them and accept a deal when it meets. Be patient and walk away if required.
Hope That Helps
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Hello,
First time poster, being lurking for some time now. Bought my first Prado today and this thread really helped with negotiation, knowing what to expect with all the warranty and add ons etc.
Got the GXL diesel manual (2017) with floor mats, full tanks, 12 months rego and on road costs for $61k in Perth. I'm pretty happy with that and hoping that the stock will arrive soon!
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Originally posted by birdsam View PostHello,
First time poster, being lurking for some time now. Bought my first Prado today and this thread really helped with negotiation, knowing what to expect with all the warranty and add ons etc.
Got the GXL diesel manual (2017) with floor mats, full tanks, 12 months rego and on road costs for $61k in Perth. I'm pretty happy with that and hoping that the stock will arrive soon!
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2016 Prado VX 2.8L Turbo Diesel Automatic
Graphite
Towbar
Cargo Mat
$71,750 drive away 12 mo's rego, ctp, full tank diesel. No trade in
Bit of a spur of the moment thing - had been in earlier to test the Kluger but left unimpressed. Was about to buy a Kia, but they just couldn't get to the price I wanted, so changed tack and went after a vehicle I really liked. Enjoyed driving the GXL but once I got in to the VX there was no going back.
Tested on Sunday 26th Feb arvo - stayed until after closing agreeing on the price. Sorted finance (lease) on Monday 27th and picked up Tuesday 28th afternoon. They said at that price they wanted it off the lot by the end of the month. Didn't have the towbar or cargo liner at pickup but just got them installed yesterday - provided a free loaner car (Rav4) for the day. Picked up free front rubber mats with my "loyalty points" gained for purchasing the car
First 6 service visits (after free 1st one) capped at $240 - not sure if this is special or standard.
Got a competitive price for comprehensive insurance from them as well ($900).
Brian Hilton Toyota Gosford
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