[QUOTE=juc33_prado;565122]only problem is fuel economy... or lack there of....
my mate has the 3.7L petrol FJ, which averages about 18L/100 around town if you want to drive 'normally' ie. 'not feathering the accelerator everywhere', and then 20L/100 + offroad/sand and maaaybe 13-15L highway... so therefore your fuel is used pretty quickly touring or if you needed to tow anything...
How about comparing a late model petrol Prado instead of of much older generation petrol engine. My 2013 GXL V6 is consistently returning 10.9L /100 on the highway (scangauge). Granted its a standard vehicle with no mods.
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Of course and agree. This is the BIG reason isn't it. I've been reading more into if and found this graph interesting, noting that the 1GD is euro 5 compliant, you can see the massive drop in particle emissions from euro 3 and 4. I'm just trying to figure out, from the article CUDA originally posted (the guardian one), it quotes "Diesels produce 15% less CO2 than petrol, but emit four times more nitrogen dioxide pollution (NO2) and 22 times more particulates". The particles begin the concerning figure
I'm interested to know if its euro 5 or is it euro 4 that is compared to when quoting "22 times the particles", because ifs its euro 4 that is has 22 times more, then Euro 5 would have about one fifth of the particles compares to euro 4 and that's a GREAT improvement, but also that still leaves us with 4-5 times more than petrol (assuming facts from article)
If you can afford the extra fuel and you have a lot of stop/start/loading kids etc in and out exposure to diesel fumes while cars are running with aircon on in hot days etc, then maybe it seems we could be at a much better point to not worry about particles as much, depending if eruo 4 or 5 is the one with 22 times the particules than petrol
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Originally posted by robaarrgghh View PostGoing back a bit quoting this, and a bit of a side point but very good point here. If we are also prepared to pay for the extra, at least 3.5L/100 fuel cost as well. Also excluding the extra fuel costs, it would be interesting to hear peoples thought re: environmental impact comparing using less diesel per 100km VS using more of the cleaner unleaded. Avoid all DPF EGR etc issues also. I think think the petrol would come up better for the environment. Maybe more of us should consider this. I too have the toyota diesel instilled in my mind as a necessity of longevity and value but this is always worth considering. I mean a petrol Toyota's still have that legendary quality instilled within... corolla, rav4's, all stood the test of time. Also what is it?, 207kw out of the 2.8L 1GR-FE ? At least you get a whole lot more power for the extra cost (cleaner) fuel.
my mate has the 3.7L petrol FJ, which averages about 18L/100 around town if you want to drive 'normally' ie. 'not feathering the accelerator everywhere', and then 20L/100 + offroad/sand and maaaybe 13-15L highway... so therefore your fuel is used pretty quickly touring or if you needed to tow anything...
NOW.... waiting for the new series of prado's and cruisers, here's hoping we get some petrol/hybrid versions.
SAMUEL
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Originally posted by cuda View PostIts funny all these comments V6 resale considering just normal dealer is offering 27k for a 09 VX Prado with 125k on the clock. Carsales also seems to indicate V6's are selling ok. Tag some and watch how long they take to sell with a decent price. Always the diesel vs petrol debate creates some interesting story and feedback. The sad story about diesel is that its a big polluter and European's are starting to take notice. Its great to see Diesel reduces the CO2 produced but the trade off is far worse. Heres a snippet from a recent article.
Diesels produce 15% less CO2 than petrol, but emit four times more nitrogen dioxide pollution (NO2) and 22 times more particulates - the tiny particles that penetrate the lungs, brain and heart.
As new research shows that diesel fumes are worse than expected for health, triggering cancers, heart attacks and the stunting of children’s growth, many politicians have admitted a major environmental mistake.
Complete article http://www.theguardian.com/environme...alth-pollution
This might make you think twice about diesel vs petrol debate.
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Originally posted by skirulz View PostThats a good price but unattainable so far in Sydney. i had to settle for 62k with two bar, front sensors, mats, metallic and full tank of diesel.
Interesting I paid 66k for my 2010 Prado from the same dealer, the car is written off after a accident
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Originally posted by Richie View PostJust purchased new 2.8 GXL in White,tow bar rubber mats and full tank for 61,000.Best I could get here in Perth
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Just purchased new 2.8 GXL auto in White,tow bar rubber mats and full tank for 61,000.Best I could get here in PerthLast edited by Richie; 18-02-2017, 04:38 PM.
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Originally posted by j_c View PostYeah good stuff enjoy,lease through work.
I was weighing up between a VX , waiting for the Altitude, or Later in the year....
Only other thing I want to add is a dual
Battery setup and Anderson for the fridge.
Should get mine next Friday.
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Yeah good stuff enjoy,lease through work.
I was weighing up between a VX , waiting for the Altitude, or Later in the year....
Only other thing I want to add is a dual
Battery setup and Anderson for the fridge.
Should get mine next Friday.
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Originally posted by j_c View Post61 even
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