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  • Originally posted by tripleaj View Post
    New to the site so first post.

    I am confused as my 2004/5 GX (No flares) has 17 x 6 steel rims and I measured the offset at 50mm. 140mm to inside and 40mm to outside. 90mm is the centre = 50mm offset.

    The comments above refer to a 15mm offset.

    What am I missing??

    I am struggling to find some A/T L/T tyres for these narrow rims.
    Welcome to the forum!

    You are correct, the 120 series GX/Standard 17x6 rims are a +50 offset. Check page 324 of your owners manual for the different track measurements, 1535mm for the 17x6 wheels and 1575mm for the 17x7.5 wheels. The 40mm difference is 20mm per wheel. ET30 + 20 = ET50

    Originally posted by Peterpilot View Post
    I checked the Toyota owners manual and on page 324 it states a "Front and Rear tread* of 1535 With 225/70R17 tires" and "1575 With 265/65R17 tires".
    If this is correct, then the offset of the 17x6 GX/Standard steel rim is actually ET50.
    *Where the owners manual refers to "tread" it actually means track. Must've lost something in translation
    Peterpilot
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    Last edited by Peterpilot; 20-07-2013, 02:53 PM.
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    • Thanks for the response.

      I'm doing a Simpson desert trip and trying to sort out tyres but struggling with the 6" rims and a decent tyre. If I go with the GXL rims they stick out the guards as I don't have flares.

      I have seen 245/70-17" A/T L/T tyre fitted to the 6" rim which matches the 265/65-17" rolling diameter but the 245's are meant for minimum 6.5".

      The 1/2" is possibly OK but worrying me in regards to running at 14-18psi in the sand?

      Any have any experience with this????

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      • 245/70R17 tyres are not recommended for a 6x17 rim, but there is still decent rubber available. Try a set of Bridgestone D697 225/70R17 LT instead, search this forum and you'll find many testimonials for the Bridgestone tyres. You'll also find many people that have successfully fitted GXL rims to a GX

        You may also want to consider some 7.5x17 genuine Toyota steel rims which retail for about $140ea new from Toyota and you could reuse your current wheel nuts, or any aftermarket rims in a size and offset that will suit the particular tyre you want to run

        Bridgestone tyres link: http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/treads/d697.aspx
        Link to flareless GX with GXL rims: http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?t=17390
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        Last edited by Peterpilot; 20-07-2013, 09:39 PM.
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        • So, and correct me if I'm wrong, Patrol wheels on a 120 GXL should give a reasonably good increase in track, and improve internal clearance by around 13mm. Has anyone successfully used these?
          Marty 120
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          Last edited by Marty 120; 21-07-2013, 12:16 AM.

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          • Originally posted by Marty 120 View Post
            So, and correct me if I'm wrong, Patrol wheels on a 120 GXL should give a reasonably good increase in track, and improve internal clearance by around 13mm. Has anyone successfully used these?
            If the Patrol rims are a 17x8 in a +10 offset with PCD of 6x139.7 then yes to your first two questions. I don't know of anyone that has actually fitted Pootroll rims to a 120 Prado.

            Unfortunately the offset of +10 would make them illegal on a 120 series in NSW without an engineering certificate. The maximum track increase allowed is 25mm and the standard wheel has an offset of +30 which means that the biggest legal offset here is +18 (technically +17.5): http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registrati...vsi09_rev4.pdf
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            • I'm confused...............the diagram shows that the wheel can have a pos or a neg offset but the list refers to ET ...........What does ET mean please ?
              Cheers Ross

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              • Refer to my post on page 10.

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                • http://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel...ulator#Results

                  I like this calculator....nice and easy
                  Cheers
                  Phil
                  06 120 GXL 1KZ-TE man, modified exhaust, K&N, OME 2",spacers, Sovereign BB, Safari Snorkel, Hella 4000, 33" muddies, ARB 60L fridge / slide ,custom rear drawer, cargo barrier and table, Ironman 9500lb Winch, TJM underbody guards, DIY Radiator bash plate, Outback Ideas recovery points, AJ's sliders, CKMA12, lockers, ext rear breather, UHF, dual batt, SBi12, ARB alloy roof cage, ARB side awning...

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                  • Originally posted by fourbyphil View Post
                    http://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel...ulator#Results

                    I like this calculator....nice and easy
                    Cheers
                    Phil
                    This is good for comparing rims alone but just comparing rims can be misleading. If you use this calculator to compare a 17x7.5 +30 rim to a 17x9 +20 rim it tells you that you have 9mm less inner clearance at the rim with the +20 offset. However once you add the same size tyre to the rims you actually have more inner clearance with the 17x9 +20 at the tyre as a result of the offset.

                    In reality any rubbing will occur at the tyre so a calculator that also takes tyre size into account gives you the full picture:

                    http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp

                    If you prefer a visual calculator, try this:

                    http://www.willtheyfit.com/
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                    • Originally posted by Marty 120 View Post
                      So, and correct me if I'm wrong, Patrol wheels on a 120 GXL should give a reasonably good increase in track, and improve internal clearance by around 13mm. Has anyone successfully used these?
                      that's " blasphemy " , putting the competitors rims on a prado... but cause i like to think outside the box , watching with interest.. cheers butane
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                      • Watch the centre bore on the Nissan wheels, you will need hub centric adapters.
                        My 150 build - http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?27423-A-Random-approach-to-a-Bluestorm-150-GXL-D4D-automatic

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                        • Originally posted by butane8 View Post
                          that's " blasphemy " , putting the competitors rims on a prado... but cause i like to think outside the box , watching with interest.. cheers butane
                          When the wife decided she liked the patrol rims, I wondered about if anyone had done this (and also figured there would be a lot of crap thrown my way if I did it). I too will be watching to see if this is viable (and how it looks).

                          Mind you, she has decided she also likes 5 different wheel types since then as well. Lucky we aren't in a hurry for a new set of wheels/tyres at the moment, as I'm sure it will change again.

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                          • In my search for wheels I found some others that suit the 150 series:

                            King Rebel 17x7.5
                            King Rok 17x7.5

                            Allied Dragon 17x8

                            These come in +20 offset so all good for the 150.

                            Cheers
                            Ando

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                            • Hello there, I'm wondering a 18" x 9" +10 offset rim with tires BF 265/65 R18 can fit on my prado 150 series? will it comes out from fender a lot?

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                              • Hey Guys,

                                Looking for black steel sunraiser style wheels in 17x8 with a +20 offset. Does anyone have these or know of what brand makes them? I have been looking around a bit and can only find +25 and +10(illegal).

                                Thanks

                                Troy
                                2005 Toyota Prado Grande 3.0 TD - ARB Deluxe winch bar, Avenger 9500lb winch - nylon rope, Safari Snorkel, DP Diesel Chip, Lightforce HID 240's 50w, Oricom UHF, Bushranger Mud Tamer mats, Toyota Genuine Tow Bar, Toyota Genuine bonnet protector and headlight protectors, ARB Roof top tent and awning, ARB dual battery system with Red ARC and Optima deep cycle battery, Max Trax, ARB Compressor and Rear Air Locker, Waeco 50L fridge/freezer.

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