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Snatching a 2 Tonne vehicle that is bogged is eqiuivilent to pulling 4 Tonne, So with a safety factor of 2, an 8 Tonne strap would be OK.
I do remember snatching a stuck fully loaded fire truck out of a (set-up at a 4WD show) bog hole with my old 60 series in tandem with a 55 series. Worked a treat. Don't remember the ratings of the straps (don't think they were rated), however received a big applause from the crowd and a picture in the local paper. No damage, have since retired the strap.Sold the Prado. Now FJ Cruiser
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cool thanks for the info guys.[COLOR="red"]Stew[/COLOR]
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Originally posted by sssstew View PostHi All
Sorry if this has been answered before, had a search and couldnt find anything.
Im looking at getting a recovery kit with the usual snatch strap and shackles but have seen different ratings for the strap and D shackles so whats the generally recommended amount for a Prado?
Seen straps of about 8000kg, and shackles of abour 4.7t
What do you think?
Cheers
Hey Stew,
I have absolutely nothing to do with the company involved (but in my work I have dealt with the carnage of the dead and injured after snatch incidents that have gone terribly, terribly wrong), but one of the best descriptions of what equipment to use, how to use it and what ratings should be used can be found on the following web site www.juststraps.com.au
This is not an advert or a plug for this site, and you can and should choose to purchase your recovery equipment from a reputable dealer, but there is some very good info on this website.
In summary;
NEVER FORGET: Injury and death can occur when a recovery goes wrong.
Protect the strap from abraison, sharp edges, chemicals etc
Never, ever tie knots in the snatch starp or join with a knot or shackle (it weakens it or the shackle becomes a missile)
Use a strap that has a MINIMUM breaking strain of 2 times the Gross vehicle mass and a maximum of 3 times the GRoss vehicle mass
Don't use a strap rated too light (it can break easily) and likewise don't use one that is rated too heavy (over stress the attachment points and maybe break the car as it won't "snatch" )
Keep everyone clear (including passangers (who can and do get killed if something breaks and becomes a missile)
Use a "air brake" across the snatch (such as a blanket, hessian bag or a large towel etc) to slow the strap should it break
Use an equaliser strap to share the load across tow rated recovery points (if possible) but never join the staps with a shackle
Use only rated shackles to connect strap to a rated recovery point on the vehicle.
NEVER ever ever use a tow ball to attach a snatch strap...Its convenient... BUT it can, has (and no doubt will again) maim and/or kill the innocent... the tow ball breaks relatively easily during a snatch and becomes a lethal missile that travels so fast no one will see it until it hits someone or something with such force it can destroy car parts and human bodies.....and its a horrible and sad and tragic event and must never ever happen again.....do a google for fatal snatch strap incidents and you will find some articles and reports of relevance.
Finally, and seriously, do a 1 day 4wd recovery course, (or join a 4wd club) you will be amazed at what you will learn, and it can save you hours, money and lives.
I also have no connection with any course or product...just an interst in never having to deal with the injured or dead again from prevetable incidents associated with vehicle recoveries.
A snatch recovery done well is fantastic.. but a snatch recovery done bady can be absolutley costly or tragic....
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Very well said, I have seen snatch straps fail and also winch cables and if not correctly handled with safety as main priority, it can be very dangerous.Originally posted by brogers View PostHey Stew,
I have absolutely nothing to do with the company involved (but in my work I have dealt with the carnage of the dead and injured after snatch incidents that have gone terribly, terribly wrong), but one of the best descriptions of what equipment to use, how to use it and what ratings should be used can be found on the following web site www.juststraps.com.au
This is not an advert or a plug for this site, and you can and should choose to purchase your recovery equipment from a reputable dealer, but there is some very good info on this website.
In summary;
NEVER FORGET: Injury and death can occur when a recovery goes wrong.
Protect the strap from abraison, sharp edges, chemicals etc
Never, ever tie knots in the snatch starp or join with a knot or shackle (it weakens it or the shackle becomes a missile)
Use a strap that has a MINIMUM breaking strain of 2 times the Gross vehicle mass and a maximum of 3 times the GRoss vehicle mass
Don't use a starp rated too light (it can break easily) and likewise don't use one that is rated too heavy (over stress the attachment points and maybe break the car as it won't "snatch" )
Keep everyone clear (including passangers (who can and do get killed if something breaks and becomes a missile)
Use a "air brake" across the snatch (such as a blanket, hessian bag or a large towel etc) to slow the strap should it break
Use an equaliser strap to share the load across tow rated recovery points (if possible) but never join the staps with a shackle
Use only rated shackles to connect strap to a rated recovery point on the vehicle.
NEVER ever ever use a tow ball to attach a snatch strap...Its convenient... BUT it can, has (and no doubt will again) main and kill the innocent... the tow ball breaks relatively easily during a snatch and becomes a lethal missile that travels so fast no one will see it until it hits someone or something with such force it can destroy car parts and human bodies.....and its a horrible and sad and tragic event and must never ever happen again.....do a google for fatal snatch strap incidents and you will find some articles and reports of relevance.
Finally, and seriously, do a 1 day 4wd recovery course, you will be amazed at what you will learn, and it can save you hours, money and lives.
I also have no connection with any course or product...just an interst in never having to deal with the injured or dead again from prevetable incidents associated with vehicle recoveries.
A snatch recovery done well is fantastic.. but a snatch recovery done bady can be absolutley costly or tragic....
Merry Christmas and stay safe
As a member of a 4 wheel drive club and when new members join, you really see that they have no idea of correct recovery procedures it is scary....If its not on all 4's it's not on.....
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Thanks guys for all the info.
At the weekend I got myself a recovery kit from Opposite Lock 4x4 with 8t strap, 2 x 3.2t shackles and gloves, then added an equilizer strap in for another $60.

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