V6 Diesel for the 150

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Re the AU, i went to the big ford launch at Parramatta and when they dimmed the lights and pulled the curtain back and there was the AU we all went for another round of free drinks then went home. I got one brand new as a work vehicle and had brake problems from day one, then the head light switch fell out and i was unable to see my dash at night therefore unable to tell what speed i was travelling which is not a good look. I also locked myself out of the car on christmas eve in the Blue mountains after i got a mobile phone call on the car kit then stopped on the side of the road still connected to my client to check my diary for an appointment, you guessed it, i slammed the boot shut and found i was unable to get back into the car as my drivers side door was locked. Bloody embarassing for me still on hands free, 40 degree heat and the car idling away. My client thought i had a heart attack. 1 hour later a laughing NRMA guy arrived and said "don't worry he had a run on the "locked out" issues with the AU.
All and all not great memories of the AU.

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Roo, just brings back memories not all of which are fond.

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Back on subject, I would not go anywhere near a V6 diesel. I don't care whether Toyota redesigns it or not. A straight six configuration is the go for diesels. Just for argument sake, please name a good one from the past or the present? I just can't think of one. Please don't say that Italian piece of crap that they put in the Discovery is any good because they are not. There maybe one, I can't think of one that's all. Sorry Wazza, about the AU thing, it's just that they were pretty good as a taxi, that's all.
The Roo.

The jeep V6 diesels have been good for some years saying that the previous straight 5cyl prior was a cracker (think it was a merc motor)

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V6 oiler for the Prado.

I have read several posts that Toyota was going to give the Prado a V6 oiler. I have checked with the dealer where I got my 150 from and they told me that they didn't know of any motor change. I also talked to two commercial drivers that are driving vans with the same motor as the Prado. One of them told me that it was not uncommon to get 1 million K's in their fleet, the other said his motor was up around 800 K's and never had the head off. Both said that were no real problems with them bar the normal things that need fixing from time to time. With the V8 in the 200 series having so many problems, and still having them, I will be sticking with the 3L 4D even if Toyota comes out with a V6. The 3 L have a good history of reliability now.

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Ok I will just let you guys know I work for TOYOTA, there is no change in the motor as it's not broken why try and fix it, It has been toyota's best 3.0 diesel engine they have made and i have had one now for over half a million klm and still plenty of grunt. I myself have just bought a 2014 series II Prado wouldn't change the motor for quids awesome fuel economy and just a reliable motor.

Toyota Will not up the towing cap as it would be detrimental to their sales, as there would be no need for the 200 series cruiser so you can understand you want towing buy a 200...

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Well there you go straight from the horses mouth, I was just about to say I don't think the Toyota salesmen will tell you there's finally a new V6 diesel coming because it will affect sales and they just couldn't literally afford to drop any sales waiting for the V6 to arrive. But obviously that's not the case and Toyota think that the 4cyl engine is appropriate for the size of car and never want to tow a van with it either. Interesting, how is the reliability thing these days with the injector seats? Still have to change them out ( at the owners expense ) every 40,000km? Not so reliable from alot of first hand experiences here in the annals of P.P history.......

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The jeep V6 diesels have been good for some years saying that the previous straight 5cyl prior was a cracker (think it was a merc motor)

You realise the that Jeep use the same motor as Nissan, it's a Renaut motor, part of the Daimler, Chrylser, Nissan, Renaut alliance.

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The current 3L is plenty sufficient. It's great, a slight bump in torque wouldn't hurt for the next model, and make the current prado spec standard in the Hilux update.

Just put some a 6 speed auto behind it to improve economy and your good for another 7 years.

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Ok I will just let you guys know I work for TOYOTA, there is no change in the motor as it's not broken why try and fix it, It has been toyota's best 3.0 diesel engine they have made and i have had one now for over half a million klm and still plenty of grunt. I myself have just bought a 2014 series II Prado wouldn't change the motor for quids awesome fuel economy and just a reliable motor.

Toyota Will not up the towing cap as it would be detrimental to their sales, as there would be no need for the 200 series cruiser so you can understand you want towing buy a 200...

That's great yours has been reliable for so many Klm's, & what year was it?
What sort of repairs have you encountered?
How many sets of injectors did you wear out in that one, in those Klm's?
How many leaking water pumps? Much else?
Good motor, very reliable, as long as your worn injectors don't burn a hole in a piston.
But you are lucky to have the insider info perhaps? & have the Toyota intelligent tester permanently plugged in to monitor injectors?
Yes, there is plenty of broken 1kd engines.

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Ok I will just let you guys know I work for TOYOTA, there is no change in the motor as it's not broken why try and fix it, It has been toyota's best 3.0 diesel engine they have made and i have had one now for over half a million klm and still plenty of grunt. I myself have just bought a 2014 series II Prado wouldn't change the motor for quids awesome fuel economy and just a reliable motor.

Toyota Will not up the towing cap as it would be detrimental to their sales, as there would be no need for the 200 series cruiser so you can understand you want towing buy a 200...

HaHa.....heard it all before.............About 2 years ago the missus and I went into the local Tojo dealer to see if the new Rav4 would have a Diesel version aswell.................Get this..........Two sales people told us No way not in the Rav for Australia ever and infact Toyota were going down the lines of retiring all of their Diesel vehicles in the coming years due to lack of demand and the poor fuel we have here..................Honestly I just did not know what to say to them.....we just pretty much turned around and walked out thinking WTF?.........

Ofcourse 6 months later along comes a Diesel Rav4............I bet the sales team got a shock hey..

I think a new 3ltrish V6 CRD will be in the next Prado IMO........It could only be a good thing.

Dan

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The 1KD is adequate. No more, no less. Regardless of anyone's opinion of the engine it isn't bullet proof and you need to be vigilant with injectors, be meticulous with fuel cleanliness and maintenance and above all don't be complacent. But then this has all been said before.

[PradoGXL08 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PradoGXL08]

Ok I will just let you guys know I work for TOYOTA, there is no change in the motor as it's not broken why try and fix it, It has been toyota's best 3.0 diesel engine they have made and i have had one now for over half a million klm and still plenty of grunt. I myself have just bought a 2014 series II Prado wouldn't change the motor for quids awesome fuel economy and just a reliable motor.

Toyota Will not up the towing cap as it would be detrimental to their sales, as there would be no need for the 200 series cruiser so you can understand you want towing buy a 200...

FYI, By not increasing the Towing Capacity to 3T, you Toyota are actually shooting yourselves in the foot!!
Those who want the 3T Towing capacity (like me) are going to twin Cabs, like Holden Colorado, Isuzu D-Max, Nissan Navara, which are cheaper to setup for towing caravans. I am seeing them on the roads outback.

Most caravans are 2400-2800kgs loaded for a semi-offroad van, 19'-21'. Vans like Lotus Freelander for example
I know, I have done alot of research on this. This restricts us, to what caravans will can buy, which is very very few, for the Prado.

If the next Prado was 3T, you would gain Tens of thousands of extra sales as people want a 4wd with comfort, twin fuel tanks for range and a wagon with auto, and 4 or 6 cylinder TDI with a Sale Price in the mid $60's-$70'sK.

Those who want a full offroad caravan, which weights over 3,000kgs will still buy the 200 Series, no question.

If the next Prado doesn't have 3T Towing, I for one will be walking away from Toyota, as I see the 200 series as too big and heavy, with 4 cylinders too much = extra fuel burnt.

Stuart

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The 1KD is adequate. No more, no less. Regardless of anyone's opinion of the engine it isn't bullet proof and you need to be vigilant with injectors, be meticulous with fuel cleanliness and maintenance and above all don't be complacent. But then this has all been said before.

i would never buy one after reading all the complaints about the engine, a) i would wait for the replacement, b) buy a petrol and wear the few extra dollars in fuel.... or c) heaven forbid buy another vehicle...

seems ridiculous that toyota have never come to the party with this failure, especially considering the prado is so popular.\

SAM

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What advantage to Toyota to go V6, surely the future is ever increasing high tech. Twin turbo same or smaller capacity 4 cylinder. Besides V6 just means there is now six injectors to replace.

[sunchaser Member Find all posts View Profile Close sunchaser]

juc33, Exactly my thoughts. I waited and waited for a v6 oiler and still no show so ended up buying a v6 petrol and don't have to worry about anything going wrong. Fuel use isnt a problem, it's not like i'm travelling round Aus or anything, just the odd trip here and there. no dramas

rogjil, I'm hearing you there, I think that's why it's been taking so long for the V6 to come out. At a guess they are having problems with the R&D and trial stages and are still having the same issues with the injectors failing and don't want to bring it out until it's rectified.

Just my thoughts Gaz