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    Hey guys,

    I bought my 120 about 18 months ago. A/c didn't get cold, fan worked. A mechanic mate replaced seals on condenser and put fresh gas in. Lasted 6 months then went hot. He looked and couldn't see any die anywhere and couldn't work it out so I took it somewhere else. They then couldn't work it out and gassed it again saying it looked fine. 10 months and its bloody gone hot again. I will take it somewhere else again but really can't understand what it can be. I dont see how it would take that long for the gas to disappear, normally gas goes straight away if there is a leak due to the pressure.

    any ideas?
    2012 4dr JK wrangler, 3.5" AEV lift, AEV mags, 35" muddies, front/rear arb bars, tjm sliders, pioneer platform and some other goodies

  • #2
    dont know whether to just bite the bullet and replace things like compressor condenser etc and re gas but then if they haven't found an issue why buy them? It is costly regassing the bloody thing every 6-9 months and really giving me the shits!
    2012 4dr JK wrangler, 3.5" AEV lift, AEV mags, 35" muddies, front/rear arb bars, tjm sliders, pioneer platform and some other goodies

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    • #3
      Did they replace the desiccant bag in the condenser when they gassed it? That may be the problem in the hot weather.
      Are you sure it is out of gas.
      If dye is in the system and out of gas, it may have a leak in the evaporator.
      Cheers
      Charlie

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      • #4
        If evap leak it may only leak under expansion and contraption, when it is used.
        That may take longer to leak.
        Only way to see if that is the problem is to take the evap out and fully examine.
        Have had TX valve leaking in some of the Landcruiser's as well. Again evap may have to come out if that is the problem.
        Last edited by cmilton54; 19-02-2014, 04:02 PM. Reason: spelling
        Cheers
        Charlie

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        • #5
          Take it to a proper automotive A/C mechanic, the previous 2 have broken the law and can lose their licence's by re gassing the unit without locating the leak, a decent mechanic could find the leak by pressure testing the unit and using a leak detector.
          It is also possible that the gas could be leaking out of the compressor front seal as these dry out and leak if the A/C system is not used regularly even if it is not hot, a very small leak will take quite a while to leak out the gas charge but would still be findable
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          • #6
            Interesting as the other 2 are AC mechanics! I am taking it somewhere else in the morning and he said he's got a sniffer to test for a leak so will advise what comes of it this time!

            Cheers guys

            Originally posted by FC_Holden View Post
            Take it to a proper automotive A/C mechanic, the previous 2 have broken the law and can lose their licence's by re gassing the unit without locating the leak, a decent mechanic could find the leak by pressure testing the unit and using a leak detector.
            It is also possible that the gas could be leaking out of the compressor front seal as these dry out and leak if the A/C system is not used regularly even if it is not hot, a very small leak will take quite a while to leak out the gas charge but would still be findable
            2012 4dr JK wrangler, 3.5" AEV lift, AEV mags, 35" muddies, front/rear arb bars, tjm sliders, pioneer platform and some other goodies

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            • #7
              Originally posted by prado2004 View Post
              Interesting as the other 2 are AC mechanics! I am taking it somewhere else in the morning and he said he's got a sniffer to test for a leak so will advise what comes of it this time!

              Cheers guys
              So am I but like most things these days there are tradesman and there are 'tradesman' and than of course there are component changes who just keep changing things until they strike it lucky.

              Good luck and hope you find the right person, oh and if the first 2 are A/C mechanics and do not have a leak detector than they are not tradesman
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              • #8
                Originally posted by FC_Holden View Post
                So am I but like most things these days there are tradesman and there are 'tradesman' and than of course there are component changes who just keep changing things until they strike it lucky.

                Good luck and hope you find the right person, oh and if the first 2 are A/C mechanics and do not have a leak detector than they are not tradesman
                If you were in QLD i'd love to get you to look. This guy definitely has a leak detector "sniffer" he called it so fingers crossed he can actually diagnose the issue instead of gassing me up and saying thanks see you later.
                2012 4dr JK wrangler, 3.5" AEV lift, AEV mags, 35" muddies, front/rear arb bars, tjm sliders, pioneer platform and some other goodies

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by prado2004 View Post
                  If you were in QLD i'd love to get you to look. This guy definitely has a leak detector "sniffer" he called it so fingers crossed he can actually diagnose the issue instead of gassing me up and saying thanks see you later.
                  Sorry too far to go for an A/C job, under law they are not allowed to just gas it up, big fines and loss of lic. Besides the gas is much too expensive now to just keep putting it in
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                  • #10
                    The new a/c mechanic finally found the problem with his sniffer detector. Crack in the pipe down below the air box. Once he showed me even I could smell the gas escaping, I think it has worsened dramatically then previously. Anyway am taking it back Tuesday for him to remove the pipe and have it repaired. Finally problem will be resolved instead of regassing and being sent on my way.
                    2012 4dr JK wrangler, 3.5" AEV lift, AEV mags, 35" muddies, front/rear arb bars, tjm sliders, pioneer platform and some other goodies

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                    • #11
                      Prado2004 I'm pleased you finally got it sorted...when I need some a/c work done on mine (getting old/similar vintage) I'll make sure to PM you as I don't want 'larries' fooling around and charging me every 6 months.
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                      • #12
                        Yeah I actually ended up getting the guy who services my car to do it, I never even realised he too is a a/c specialist. He couldn't believe he was the third mechanic to look at it as he picked up the issue in literally 5 mins in front of me. There are definitely some suspect people out there.
                        2012 4dr JK wrangler, 3.5" AEV lift, AEV mags, 35" muddies, front/rear arb bars, tjm sliders, pioneer platform and some other goodies

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                        • #13
                          Good to hear it is all being sorted
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