Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW

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Will they be banning the cheap cartridges also?
I note: that you can now get a "Premium" CRV type cartridge which vents under pressure instead of exploding... (eg the Campmaster and Wollies brands)
see video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDIWMp3cIPM

That's what I have been using, I think for a while now.







Explosion prevented.......? CAMPMASTER.

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I've been using these for years and obviously never had an issue, as with the thousands that have been sold over the years. Ever been to a restaurant where there is one on every table?

I scored a coated, aluminium, rectangle shaped hot plate from Aldi ages ago. I use that in such a way that it doesn't cover the gas can.

It seems that these things just need a redesign to separate the can from the cooker.

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Seems all the states are now scrambling....

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-1...ction=business

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If people just used a smaller pan when cooking then there wouldn't be any problems.
Common sense ain't so common.


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If people just used a smaller pan when cooking then there wouldn't be any problems.
Common sense ain't so common.


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Common sense is just what is considered the standardised assumed knowledge of the time. Once upon a time commonsense dictated that if you sailed far enough you'd sail off the edge of the world. Unfortunatley the human race's average IQ seems to be exponentially decreasing with each passing year

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If people just used a smaller pan when cooking then there wouldn't be any problems.
Common sense ain't so common.


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It is NOT only about the large pan scenario and lack of common sense . The problem principally relates to the safety lever failing, not engaging or allowing crap to get between it and the gas canister, that results in gas escaping potentially allowing gas to build up and exploding which can impact both the user and innocent bystanders.
Retesting of these cookers by the 2 different certifying bodies found that the cookers were failing and so approval certificates where removed making the sale illegal.

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The problem principally relates to the safety lever failing, not engaging or allowing crap to get between it and the gas canister, that results in gas escaping potentially allowing gas to build up and exploding .

Where does the escaping gas build up to a concentration that it can explode?

On all the ones I have had there is sufficient venting in the stove to allow the gas to dissipate.

Thanks.

S.

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So it's not about the pan size but about people not putting the can in properly? And still trying to operate it when the safety lever doesn't work? Seems like a lack of common sense still. If there's an issue with mine I'll just chuck em in the bin, they don't cost much.


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I find the can gets very cold when using one of these, so you would need to be having a real go to get it to explode.

Liquid expanding to a gas. Same principal as a fridge. (Please correct me if Im wrong)

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I owned a two burner portable cooker and I do feel paranoid when using them. Everything its made of are thin, too flimsy. I just hope any manufacturer would come-up with a more sturdy, safe and reliable portable cooker.

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What is the difference to a BUTANE cooker and a PROPANE cooker?

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Propane is LPG. As in your regular 9kg bottle of gas.


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Both are LPG which only means liquified petroleum gas. Propane is the third in the series with a chemical composition of C3H8 (after methane and ethane), butane is next with a composition of C4H10.

They both burn at similar temperatures but require different nozzles and jets because they operate at different vapour pressures so they are not interchangeable.

Propane has a lower boiling point (-40C ish) so it can be used in colder climates than butane (0C ish). At the same temperature Butane has a lower vapour pressure than Propane hence the lighter cylinders.

The same volume of Butane contains more energy than the same volume of Propane which is why it is ideally suited to situations like these suitcase burners and the little cylinders that we use hiking. Sometimes the Butane is mixed with Propane to be able to be used at low temperatures and still keep the lighter weight.

We use both the suitcase burners and butane cylinders when we go kayak/hiking/camping because of the light weight and small space. Be a bugger if the suitcase burners disappear completely.

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We use both the suitcase burners and butane cylinders when we go kayak/hiking/camping because of the light weight and small space. Be a bugger if the suitcase burners disappear completely.

Not a problem, make your own http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...l=1#post443822

I haven't used that setup in the real world but made one and gave it a test run at home and it works a charm.

Cheers Andrew

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I take it the withdrawal is for both butane and propane cookers. I have two cookers - I just checked one is running propane the other butane.
Go figure.

Propane is LPG. As in your regular 9kg bottle of gas.


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