Extra spare wheel for our 150

[bilgolabands Lurker Find all posts View Profile Close bilgolabands]

We have a big trip planned for our 150 and van and are wondering which wheels (second hand, steel and cheap) fit the 150..
On the weekend I swapped the wheel from our van (off road 6 stud) and although the studs fitted the wheel the nuts were all completely wrong.
Does anyone know which wheels are interchangeable with the 150 and which nuts are required?.
Bilgolabands

[yowie Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close yowie]

Cannot give you specific brands of wheels that are interchangeable with the 150, however, you need the correct nuts to fit either steel or alloy, both nuts are different. I would assume you are thinking of using a spare from the vehicle to the van, or vice versa, so if you are going to interchange steel and alloy, you will need 6 spares of each type of nut. (should always carry a few spare nuts to suit the appropriate wheels on whatever vehicle you have)

Toyota will sell them at Toyota price, a tyre dealer may be a bit cheaper, or you could try a motor wrecker that has Toyota vehicles. If you go to a wrecker, try fitting before buying.

Check that the wheels, tyres and nuts can be swapped around in an emergency BEFORE you head into the bush, rather than find something will not fit when you are sitting beside your Prado sucking in bulldust.

[mjrandom Out of control poster! Find all posts View Profile Close mjrandom]

The cheapest wheels are probably Dynamic 17x8 P25 steel wheels. These are legal fitment to a 150. I just bought two for $120 each though I think RRP is about $160. I also have picked up three used 150 GXL alloys from here and scumtree. Averaged $250 a rim though two were new in boxes. I run alloys on the camper and steelies on the trailer. And now with two more steel rims on the C-ute too.

The wheel nuts you need are a tapered nut for the steel wheels and nearly all the alloy alternatives, though the factory nuts work too because they suit both flange and chamfered wheels. The factory alloys are flange type.



The studs on the Prado are M12 while the camper are probably 1/2" which are 0.7mm bigger in diameter. You can use the steel wheels on the 1/2" studs usually with Ford taper wheel nuts. Though typically any of the right thread work.

I have retro fitted M12 studs to my trailer and my camper came with M12 studs so I can use factory wheel nuts across everything, factory alloy and Dynamic steel rims. My local BJT gave me a handful of genuine Toyota wheel nuts for nothing but I do buy lots of tyres. Mainly for the GTS...If you end up with an aftermarket alloy which is flange bolted check you are actually tightening against the wheel and not bottoming out on the flange. Screw one stud on without a wheel until it can't go any further and measure the distance from the hub to the underside of the wheel but flange. Check that against the thickness of the wheel where the studs go. Wheel should be a couple of mm wider.

[bilgolabands Lurker Find all posts View Profile Close bilgolabands]

Replacement wheels for a 150

Thank you mjrandom.
Just the info I was seeking, especially the data regarding the nuts.
Do you know if 120 steel wheels fit, of course with the corresponding taper nuts.
Bilgolabands
Also thank you yowie for your assistance.

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120 wheels are +30 offset and so will be illegal on the 150.

[Nik83 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nik83]

I've been researching similar options for a second spare naive to the requirement of different nuts. I think I'll now only be looking to get another like wheel for peace of mind.

[5logs Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close 5logs]

The cheapest wheels are probably Dynamic 17x8 P25 steel wheels. These are legal fitment to a 150. I just bought two for $120 each though I think RRP is about $160. I also have picked up three used 150 GXL alloys from here and scumtree. Averaged $250 a rim though two were new in boxes. I run alloys on the camper and steelies on the trailer. And now with two more steel rims on the C-ute too.

The wheel nuts you need are a tapered nut for the steel wheels and nearly all the alloy alternatives, though the factory nuts work too because they suit both flange and chamfered wheels. The factory alloys are flange type.



The studs on the Prado are M12 while the camper are probably 1/2" which are 0.7mm bigger in diameter. You can use the steel wheels on the 1/2" studs usually with Ford taper wheel nuts. Though typically any of the right thread work.

I have retro fitted M12 studs to my trailer and my camper came with M12 studs so I can use factory wheel nuts across everything, factory alloy and Dynamic steel rims. My local BJT gave me a handful of genuine Toyota wheel nuts for nothing but I do buy lots of tyres. Mainly for the GTS...If you end up with an aftermarket alloy which is flange bolted check you are actually tightening against the wheel and not bottoming out on the flange. Screw one stud on without a wheel until it can't go any further and measure the distance from the hub to the underside of the wheel but flange. Check that against the thickness of the wheel where the studs go. Wheel should be a couple of mm wider.

Great info ! I have tried a few places trying to find 1/2 inch wheel nuts for the camper to fit Prado alloys to it, to no avail.. I hadn't thought of changing the studs on the camper to metric, that would make life a whole lot easier. Are they simple to change ? Presume they would just hammer out of the hub face and hammer in new ones.

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The cheapest wheels are probably Dynamic 17x8 P25 steel wheels. These are legal fitment to a 150. I just bought two for $120 each though I think RRP is about $160. I also have picked up three used 150 GXL alloys from here and scumtree. Averaged $250 a rim though two were new in boxes. I run alloys on the camper and steelies on the trailer. And now with two more steel rims on the C-ute too.

The wheel nuts you need are a tapered nut for the steel wheels and nearly all the alloy alternatives, though the factory nuts work too because they suit both flange and chamfered wheels. The factory alloys are flange type.



The studs on the Prado are M12 while the camper are probably 1/2" which are 0.7mm bigger in diameter. You can use the steel wheels on the 1/2" studs usually with Ford taper wheel nuts. Though typically any of the right thread work.

I have retro fitted M12 studs to my trailer and my camper came with M12 studs so I can use factory wheel nuts across everything, factory alloy and Dynamic steel rims. My local BJT gave me a handful of genuine Toyota wheel nuts for nothing but I do buy lots of tyres. Mainly for the GTS...If you end up with an aftermarket alloy which is flange bolted check you are actually tightening against the wheel and not bottoming out on the flange. Screw one stud on without a wheel until it can't go any further and measure the distance from the hub to the underside of the wheel but flange. Check that against the thickness of the wheel where the studs go. Wheel should be a couple of mm wider.

Great info ! I have tried a few places trying to find 1/2 inch wheel nuts for the camper to fit Prado alloys to it, to no avail.. I hadn't thought of changing the studs on the camper to metric, that would make life a whole lot easier. Are they simple to change ? Presume they would just hammer out of the hub face and hammer in new ones.

[mjrandom Out of control poster! Find all posts View Profile Close mjrandom]

I haven't checked braked hubs but the non brakes hubs are as simple as drift the old ones out and pull the new ones in. Line up the splines as best you can and use a hollow spacer and washer and nut and pull the studs in. Alko stock the studs and charge $1 each. Cannot imagine the brakes hubs to be much different.

[peter_mcc Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close peter_mcc]

I haven't checked braked hubs but the non brakes hubs are as simple as drift the old ones out and pull the new ones in. Line up the splines as best you can and use a hollow spacer and washer and nut and pull the studs in. Alko stock the studs and charge $1 each. Cannot imagine the brakes hubs to be much different.

Our Tvan braked 10" Alko drum hubs are the same - knock out the hold ones and put the new ones in.

[MYT150 Member Find all posts View Profile Close MYT150]

Does anyone know what the length of the studs need to be to suit the 150 alloy nuts, when fitted on a trailer, as i am looking at running the alloy rims on my camper, so need to make sure the right studs are fitted.

[peter_mcc Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close peter_mcc]

Does anyone know what the length of the studs need to be to suit the 150 alloy nuts, when fitted on a trailer, as i am looking at running the alloy rims on my camper, so need to make sure the right studs are fitted.

The standard Alko M12x1.50 studs work on our Tvan with 150 GXL wheels and nuts.

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Thanks Peter.

[peter_mcc Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close peter_mcc]

The standard Alko M12x1.50 studs work on our Tvan with 150 GXL wheels and nuts.

A suggestion for people - if you're using Prado Alloys on your camper somewhere remote it might be a good idea to take along some "steel wheel" nuts. It's easier/cheaper finding a steel wheel in the middle of nowhere than a Toyota alloy one - but if you've only got alloy wheel nuts it won't fit properly. Most trailers have 1/2" studs - M12 studs aren't that common (I couldn't find any in Cairns last year when I needed some in a hurry but 1/2" ones were easy to find)