Last check, the Ranger 4x4 was beating the Hilux 4x4, but it's not just about the car you buy today... Dealerships, resale, reliability, industry specific models (eg Hilux mine-spec), packaging (150L fuel tanks, 4L V6 option...), aftermarket, servicing, discount. Toyota does most of the intangible stuff better. And if you want 'more' anything (power, towing capacity, etc.), they have LC200 and 79. Ford, for example, don't offer F150 or Explorer or Expedition here, so you are comparing the pinnacle of Ford's range against Toyota's (upper) mid range.
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Originally posted by 404pug View PostNot to mention the ludicrous 10000km/6 month service needs. Surely 10000km 12 months would be more on the money. A lot of their rivals have 15000km/ 12 month services. Is the product so crap that it can't go 12 months without being checked? 10000km is fine for distance but the short time is just to push up service costs and to raise revenue. I bet they don't change it.
To be fair though Toyota servicing is $210 every 10000 Kim's or 6 months Fords is $560 every 15000 Kim's or 12 months so it equals out
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Hilux is ahead of the Ranger, then some cars, an SUV, another car and then SUVs round out the top 10.
I have had a dualcab of sorts for about the last 10 years. I am in the middle of a baby Western Q trip in the Prado. No way I would want to be in any of the dualcabs.
Lots are pulling vans though, plenty overloaded as well... lots of Jeeps too.My 150 build - http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?27423-A-Random-approach-to-a-Bluestorm-150-GXL-D4D-automatic
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Originally posted by Desirable4Driving (D4D) View PostThe facelift Prado will have 3t towing, be a lighter vehicle and increase in GVM.2018 150 Series Crystal Pearl Prado VX 2.8l. 2 inch King springs and Bilstein shocks, Airtek TJM snorkel.
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Wonder if it will stay a full chassis, or if it is going to be lighter maybe no longer.Arb colour code deluxe bar, safari snorkel, lightforce venom HID's, GME uhf remote face, redarc tow pro, redarc bcdc 1240, pioneer platform, 40" curved light bar, dual battery, 3" SS exhaust, EGR mod, trans cooler upgrade, provent catch can, scangauge 2, diesel care secondary fuel filter, Tin's bash plates and actuator gaurd, 2in Bilstien and kings lift,
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The indications on http://www.caradvice.com.au/554410/2...celift-leaked/ are that the key changes are safety features (auto braking, LED lights etc) new front end and a new central dashboard design. I doubt any significant changes to engines or chassis.
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I spoke to the dealership yesterday and they confirmed there definitely is a facelift prado coming with greater tow capacity and weighs less no more info currently available however he said the info should be available from the 1st of July and would email me when info arrives.
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Cuda2018 150 Series Crystal Pearl Prado VX 2.8l. 2 inch King springs and Bilstein shocks, Airtek TJM snorkel.
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Originally posted by cuda View PostI spoke to the dealership yesterday and they confirmed there definitely is a facelift prado coming with greater tow capacity and weighs less no more info currently available however he said the info should be available from the 1st of July and would email me when info arrives.
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Through some research there is a possibility this could be the last Prado as a body on frame chassis, because Toyota is moving to a new modular way of building vehicles, hence why they a dragging the lifespan of the 150 and 200 series out due to the big initial cost of setting up for TNGA-F. Toyota moves to the new TNGA-F architecture with the 300 series due 2019/2020 which also includes the new dynamic force engines. Each Toyota vehicle that is BOF from then on will be of TNGA-F architecture (i.e. Hilux, Prado, USA - Tacoma, 4Runner, Tundra etc.)
Toyota has not confirmed that they are going modular with the current BOF vehicles but it makes sense from a manufacturing point of view as they try to meet the increase cost of building vehicles and the ever tightening fuel and emissions standards around the world. From my 4wd point of view i hope they can keep the BOF going for a long time yet.
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Originally posted by Desirable4Driving (D4D) View PostThanks for backing me up, 3t towing has been guaranteed by toyota au. I am most curious as to how they can make a lighter vehicle in what is a facelift of the 150 series. Maybe aluminum components?[CENTER][B]-=2014 GXL D4D Auto Graphite, Firestone Airbags, ARB/Optima D34 Dual Battery, ARB UVP, TJM Airtech Snorkel[/B][B]=-[/B]
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They could drop 160kg by leaving the wheels off...My 150 build - http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?27423-A-Random-approach-to-a-Bluestorm-150-GXL-D4D-automatic
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Originally posted by Desirable4Driving (D4D) View PostThanks for backing me up, 3t towing has been guaranteed by toyota au. I am most curious as to how they can make a lighter vehicle in what is a facelift of the 150 series. Maybe aluminum components?
Through some research there is a possibility this could be the last Prado as a body on frame chassis, because Toyota is moving to a new modular way of building vehicles, hence why they a dragging the lifespan of the 150 and 200 series out due to the big initial cost of setting up for TNGA-F. Toyota moves to the new TNGA-F architecture with the 300 series due 2019/2020 which also includes the new dynamic force engines. Each Toyota vehicle that is BOF from then on will be of TNGA-F architecture (i.e. Hilux, Prado, USA - Tacoma, 4Runner, Tundra etc.)
Toyota has not confirmed that they are going modular with the current BOF vehicles but it makes sense from a manufacturing point of view as they try to meet the increase cost of building vehicles and the ever tightening fuel and emissions standards around the world. From my 4wd point of view i hope they can keep the BOF going for a long time yet.
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