Fido666's 150 Kakadu

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Side on view post lift :-

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Nice lift there, bit more clearance for the play on sat !!!

Considering I have factory bash plates underneath (excluding under the bullbar) that's probably a good thing eh!

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That lift looks a bit too high for the TEMS shocks. How much droop do you have now? I wouldn't go wheeling on the weekend as the struts might be topping frequently.

I'm not sure if it is the camera angle but the space between the turns on the coil looks pretty close together meaning that the coil might fully compress before you hit the bumpstops and you might not take full advantage of the compression travel of the strut.

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Another mod crossed off the list today thanks to #############, a set of Dobinsons KDSS specific springs fitted to the front. The part number for the springs used was C59-726, this model is for KDSS equipped 150s with 50-100KG or so of accessories up front (i.e. bullbar and winch).

http://www.dobinsonsprings.com/docs/...df/TOY-100.pdf

I haven't changed anything else at this stage because I wanted to retain the Toyota TEMS shocks. I've still managed to gain a 65mm lift however this is expected to settle back down over the next month or so.

Heights for the front before were 760mm (L) and 745mm (R), after they are 825mm (L) and 810mm (R).

Sorry #### can't recall what the rears came up to since the airbags self-levelling sensors took care of that.

Anthony had some fun with the KDSS specific bits of the suspension but I'll let him chime in with any technical details (assuming they aren't trade secrets LOL).

I'll get some progress pics up as soon as I can work out how to get them off my phone, were sent to me in an MMS message.

Ahhh yes the hydraulic sway bars are fun to work with. But once again no horror stories of having to drill out & tap holes we read on another thread when a vehicle was taken to a reputable place for a lift.
Remember you only gained 65mm because of the 10-20mm (approx) you lost adding accessories first.
They will settle, take the real total, subtract 15mm then you will find you end up with a nice 40mm (approx) lift.

That lift looks a bit too high for the TEMS shocks. How much droop do you have now? I wouldn't go wheeling on the weekend as the struts might be topping frequently.

I'm not sure if it is the camera angle but the space between the turns on the coil looks pretty close together meaning that the coil might fully compress before you hit the bumpstops and you might not take full advantage of the compression travel of the strut.

Don't worry Andrew, there's plenty of down travel.
Like you said, you are try to find a problem from looking at photos. Saying don't go wheeling on the weekend?
He'll let's just take them out? Are you going to design some special springs for the job?

If you just mentioned the coils being close together, then I could inform you, that's how dobbos roll their springs, for a superior ride compared to another big yellow brand. It's not known to have caused problems, if it did they would fix/change it.

Ok everyone relax, this is Fido's thread, so any good/bad issues with the suspension might be posted here.
I suggest if anyone has any concerns, please contact me directly or Dobinsons and we can explain further to put your concerns at rest

Anthony.

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Ohhhh by the way, what's the ride like?????

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Excellent, just making sure it's all ok. Wouldn't want someone damaging their gear unexpectedly.

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That lift looks a bit too high for the TEMS shocks.

I did mention in my last post that I expect the lift to settle, Dobinsons list this model spring as providing a 40mm lift so that's probably about where it will end up. The bullbar was already on the vehicle when purchased so I have no idea what the original/factory height was. The lift might even be less now that I've filled the fuel tank on the way home LOL. Can't believe we got 133L into the tank but it was lowish when we started out this morning and it did go for a nice long drive today.

I'm not sure if it is the camera angle but the space between the turns on the coil looks pretty close together

I took those pics in a bit of a hurry in failing light so wasn't too careful about angles, was probably pointing the camera up to get into the wheelarch as I didn't have a lot of room to get around the vehicle in my driveway. Perspective in photos often lies.

Remember you only gained 65mm because of the 10-20mm (approx) you lost adding accessories first.
They will settle, take the real total, subtract 15mm then you will find you end up with a nice 40mm (approx) lift.

Yes you did tell me all that and I probably should have mentioned that in more detail in my earlier post. This also accords with the Dobinsons specs for this model spring.

Ohhhh by the way, what's the ride like?????

Hubby drove it all the way home but says the controls feel more responsive with less side to side skittishness. He also says the ride feels smoother which I can confirm. He did hit a speed hump a bit fast in our street and it did thump down a bit but that's normal, we have killer speed humps LOL. I'll be driving it tomorrow so will give more feedback then.

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Excellent, just making sure it's all ok. Wouldn't want someone damaging their gear unexpectedly.

Absolutely! That's why we only use parts & components from large trusted companies like Dobinsons.
Also that's why Fido had me work on the vehicle, I wouldn't trust anyone else either lol.........
If I had made the spring myself, you should be that concerned.
These type of coils have been used on vehicles including many Prados & Hiluxes use very similar springs, for a long time, including on stock struts.

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I'm not doubting your work at all. Please don't take it personally. I also based my comments on the lift being a bit high from the final measurements and not the difference. However, I've realised that this is a Kakadu so about 13mm needs to be taken off the measurements to compare it with a GXL.

My comment about not going wheeling was dependent on the droop. And perhaps waiting for the suspension to settle first to gain more droop before giving it a workout. Even driving around town, being gentle over speed humps and slowing around roundabouts is a good thing. But as there is enough droop, don't let me stop your weekend trip.

I also use Dobinsons and compared to mine, there is a bigger gap between the turns of the coils. It is just an observation based on the photos.

How did you go with adjusting the rear height sensors?

Would you have any of the Dobinsons spec so it can be added to the suspension database?

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Looks good. You didn't get the eye shadow colour coded when they repaired the back? Any reason?

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I'm not doubting your work at all. Please don't take it personally. I also based my comments on the lift being a bit high from the final measurements and not the difference. However, I've realised that this is a Kakadu so about 13mm needs to be taken off the measurements to compare it with a GXL.

My comment about not going wheeling was dependent on the droop. And perhaps waiting for the suspension to settle first to gain more droop before giving it a workout. Even driving around town, being gentle over speed humps and slowing around roundabouts is a good thing. But as there is enough droop, don't let me stop your weekend trip.

I also use Dobinsons and compared to mine, there is a bigger gap between the turns of the coils. It is just an observation based on the photos.

How did you go with adjusting the rear height sensors?

Would you have any of the Dobinsons spec so it can be added to the suspension database?

You are correct, when there's not a lot of down travel I do advise customers to take it easy, not jump over speed humps etc. well this is always if you want to look after a vehicle. Yes there is more down travel already than some end up with after settling.

Letting it settle before we adjust those. Will set it up so it sits nice in "N" position. Then there will be an extra 40ish at "H".
I'm recommending fixng the bag down at the bottom at that time.

I don't have a copy if any specs handy most of what I use is in the brain. They might be on the website?
I have found a few errors on the pp suspension database, now although I think it's is a great thread, if its not accurate then that's potentially worse than not having one, so I was going to stay out of it.

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If I'm not mistaken, the Kakadu airbags are already pinned.

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If I'm not mistaken, the Kakadu airbags are already pinned.

Didn't look at them. That will be good if they are. So Toyo figured it out after all hey......

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Looks good. You didn't get the eye shadow colour coded when they repaired the back? Any reason?

Hubby prefers it the way it is so black it stays.

Letting it settle before we adjust those. Will set it up so it sits nice in "N" position.

Just in case anyone is wondering, Anthony was referring to the rear airbag sensors here.

I don't have a copy if any specs handy most of what I use is in the brain. They might be on the website?

Had a look around but haven't found any yet.

If I'm not mistaken, the Kakadu airbags are already pinned.

I hope this is true, one less mod to add to the list.

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I have found a few errors on the pp suspension database, now although I think it's is a great thread, if its not accurate then that's potentially worse than not having one, so I was going to stay out of it.

#### what errors and have you told anyone or posted in that thread to correct the errors?

Sorry fido thought this needed to be asked.