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  • #106
    Re: Crammy's GXL D4D

    Looks a little untidy but should be ok mate... As long as the lugs sit flush on each other and everything is nice and tight.

    I thought of re-jigging the negative terminal clamp but I wanted to keep all the factory bits intact.

    Crammy
    2008 GXL M6 D4D, Silver
    Build Up---> [url]http://www.pradopoint.com/viewtopic.php?t=2315[/url]

    [b]{[/b]ATS Ridepro/Bilstein Lift[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]Dual Batteries with RanOx Battery Booster[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]600w Projecta 240v Inverter[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]Dunlop AT3's / MT MTZ's on Speedy Grande Rims[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]ARB Deluxe Winch Bar[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]IPF900XS Spotties - Converted to 50w 4300k HID[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]35w H4-3 4300k HID Hi-Lo Conversion[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]ARB Underbonnet Compressor[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]GME TX3440[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]T-Max 10,000lb winch[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]Safari Snorkel[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]Milford Cargo Barrier[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]Rhino HD Roofies & AT1410 Roof Tray[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]60L Waeco[b]}[/b]
    [img]http://www.gifs.net/Animation11/Transportation/Cars/4_wheel_drive.gif[/img]

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    • #107
      Re:

      Originally posted by Crammy
      Ok a couple of things I thought I'd share... Although I'm happy with the overall install on my winch, there's something that I picked up straight away when I looked under the bonnet... Being a sparky helped, but I guess if you didn't know any better, this could be a recipe for disaster.

      For those of you who are unsure what the pic is about, it's a pic is of the 35mm2 negative cable going to the winch connected on the body at the point where the body negative is attached. If you look closely you can see that the body negative is about 10mm2! :shock: So pulling the Prado out of a serious bog could have resulted in the car being burnt to the ground.
      ......
      Cheers,
      Crammy
      Hi Crammy,
      I'm referring to one of your older posts. Just for my education, am I correct in understanding that a burn out is possible because the 10mm2 body negative would not be able to handle the load? Also do you think that it would be suitable to attach the 35mm2 negative cable to the winch bar or cradle?
      Thanks.
      ------------------------------------------------------------------
      2007 Prado GXL, D4D auto, silver, Sovereign bullbar, Tmax Winch, Towbar, GME 3440 UHF Radio, Engel fridge, Thumper Battery, Rhino Roof Rack,Cargo Barrier, storage drawers (under construction)
      Wish list: Snorkel

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      • #108
        Re: Crammy's GXL D4D

        Hi Noel,

        You're correct in saying that the 10mm2 cable wouldn't be able to handle the load of the winch. Most 9000lb-10000lb winches come standard with 25mm2 - 35mm2 cable to safely handle the load.

        I'm not sure what sort of earth or -ve bonding the Prados have on their chassis, probably nothing better than the body earth. I'd be inclined to run your negative directly to the battery. Remember that the factory negative cables you see attached to the battery post are what the current will flow through when using the winch which has the negative attached to the body/chassis. It's not worth the risk to your car. The winch may run ok without a load on it but things will be different once you're stuck hard.

        Most winches come complete with a negative cable long enough to reach the battery. Do yourself a favour and find a spot for it on the battery. Not always an easy task but you'll get it on there.

        Cheers,

        Crammy

        PS: A perfect example of the stock wiring that you would be using as a return path if attached to chassis/body compared to the winch cable. Take note of the negative heading to the starter motor/alt compared to the 35mm2 winch cable.
        2008 GXL M6 D4D, Silver
        Build Up---> [url]http://www.pradopoint.com/viewtopic.php?t=2315[/url]

        [b]{[/b]ATS Ridepro/Bilstein Lift[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]Dual Batteries with RanOx Battery Booster[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]600w Projecta 240v Inverter[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]Dunlop AT3's / MT MTZ's on Speedy Grande Rims[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]ARB Deluxe Winch Bar[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]IPF900XS Spotties - Converted to 50w 4300k HID[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]35w H4-3 4300k HID Hi-Lo Conversion[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]ARB Underbonnet Compressor[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]GME TX3440[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]T-Max 10,000lb winch[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]Safari Snorkel[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]Milford Cargo Barrier[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]Rhino HD Roofies & AT1410 Roof Tray[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]60L Waeco[b]}[/b]
        [img]http://www.gifs.net/Animation11/Transportation/Cars/4_wheel_drive.gif[/img]

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        • #109
          Re: Crammy's GXL D4D

          Originally posted by Crammy
          Hi Noel,

          You're correct in saying that the 10mm2 cable wouldn't be able to handle the load of the winch. Most 9000lb-10000lb winches come standard with 25mm2 - 35mm2 cable to safely handle the load.

          I'm not sure what sort of earth or -ve bonding the Prados have on their chassis, probably nothing better than the body earth. I'd be inclined to run your negative directly to the battery. Remember that the factory negative cables you see attached to the battery post are what the current will flow through when using the winch which has the negative attached to the body/chassis. It's not worth the risk to your car. The winch may run ok without a load on it but things will be different once you're stuck hard.

          Most winches come complete with a negative cable long enough to reach the battery. Do yourself a favour and find a spot for it on the battery. Not always an easy task but you'll get it on there.

          Cheers,

          Crammy

          PS: A perfect example of the stock wiring that you would be using as a return path if attached to chassis/body compared to the winch cable. Take note of the negative heading to the starter motor/alt compared to the 35mm2 winch cable.
          Thanks for the advice Crammy. Last night I checked out the lenghth of my negative cable and it is certainly long enough. I also re-checked the battery terminal and the winch cable should fit on the existing terminal as there is nothing else attached as yet, other than what comes standard.

          Cheers
          ------------------------------------------------------------------
          2007 Prado GXL, D4D auto, silver, Sovereign bullbar, Tmax Winch, Towbar, GME 3440 UHF Radio, Engel fridge, Thumper Battery, Rhino Roof Rack,Cargo Barrier, storage drawers (under construction)
          Wish list: Snorkel

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          • #110
            Re: Crammy's GXL D4D

            BUMP!

            I noticed Crammy's rig fell to the second page of the 'My Rig Build Up' threads and thought that it just wasn't right, considering how great this rig is and that new members might miss out on seeing it if it fell to the second page.

            Any updates Crammy?

            Just curious also, your rig looks much better after lifting the front. You mention it is now raised to 790 at the front, just wondering what the back is sitting at? I couldn't find the measurement anywhere.
            NOW FOR SALE!!! - 2004 Silver GXL 3lt 4spd Auto - ARB Bullbar, Safari Snorkel, Redarc Dual Battery System, Cooper ST MAXX, Dark Tint, IPF900XS spots, Raised Bilstein/Kings Suspension/Firestone Airbags, Autosafe Cargo Barrier, Sandgrabbers, Rola Roof Rack Stuff, Insect Screen, Dust/Wind Deflectors, Sheepskin/Black Duck Seatcovers, GME TX3510, ARB underbonnet compressor, Allied Hammer Rims, ARB UVP, [url="http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?18043-Rock-sliders-steel-side-steps"]AJ Sliders[/url]

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            • #111
              Re: Crammy's GXL D4D

              Originally posted by Madkore
              BUMP!

              I noticed Crammy's rig fell to the second page of the 'My Rig Build Up' threads and thought that it just wasn't right, considering how great this rig is and that new members might miss out on seeing it if it fell to the second page.

              Any updates Crammy?

              Just curious also, your rig looks much better after lifting the front. You mention it is now raised to 790 at the front, just wondering what the back is sitting at? I couldn't find the measurement anywhere.
              Hey Madkore,

              I've been petty busy for the last few months so I've been away from PP for a while.

              There are a few new updates on the Prado since the last update.

              I've added:

              :arrow: Brown Davis bash plate
              :arrow: Firestone Airbags
              :arrow: Tossed the rear ridepro springs and put in King Springs in (Sitting around 810-820mm from memory)

              I'm pretty much finished with the Prado now so there won't be too many more additions. We've got a few things coming up next year so we may even have to sell it! :cry: :cry:

              I'll be sure to keep the thread updated if there's any future news.

              Cheers,

              Crammy
              2008 GXL M6 D4D, Silver
              Build Up---> [url]http://www.pradopoint.com/viewtopic.php?t=2315[/url]

              [b]{[/b]ATS Ridepro/Bilstein Lift[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]Dual Batteries with RanOx Battery Booster[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]600w Projecta 240v Inverter[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]Dunlop AT3's / MT MTZ's on Speedy Grande Rims[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]ARB Deluxe Winch Bar[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]IPF900XS Spotties - Converted to 50w 4300k HID[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]35w H4-3 4300k HID Hi-Lo Conversion[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]ARB Underbonnet Compressor[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]GME TX3440[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]T-Max 10,000lb winch[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]Safari Snorkel[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]Milford Cargo Barrier[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]Rhino HD Roofies & AT1410 Roof Tray[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]60L Waeco[b]}[/b]
              [img]http://www.gifs.net/Animation11/Transportation/Cars/4_wheel_drive.gif[/img]

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              • #112
                Re: Crammy's GXL D4D

                Have to sell it? Damn hey, whoever buys it will be in for a treat with all the great mods you have done.

                Cheers for the update.
                NOW FOR SALE!!! - 2004 Silver GXL 3lt 4spd Auto - ARB Bullbar, Safari Snorkel, Redarc Dual Battery System, Cooper ST MAXX, Dark Tint, IPF900XS spots, Raised Bilstein/Kings Suspension/Firestone Airbags, Autosafe Cargo Barrier, Sandgrabbers, Rola Roof Rack Stuff, Insect Screen, Dust/Wind Deflectors, Sheepskin/Black Duck Seatcovers, GME TX3510, ARB underbonnet compressor, Allied Hammer Rims, ARB UVP, [url="http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?18043-Rock-sliders-steel-side-steps"]AJ Sliders[/url]

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                • #113
                  Re: Crammy's GXL D4D

                  Prado now up for sale :cry:

                  See here: http://www.pradopoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=9475
                  2008 GXL M6 D4D, Silver
                  Build Up---> [url]http://www.pradopoint.com/viewtopic.php?t=2315[/url]

                  [b]{[/b]ATS Ridepro/Bilstein Lift[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]Dual Batteries with RanOx Battery Booster[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]600w Projecta 240v Inverter[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]Dunlop AT3's / MT MTZ's on Speedy Grande Rims[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]ARB Deluxe Winch Bar[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]IPF900XS Spotties - Converted to 50w 4300k HID[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]35w H4-3 4300k HID Hi-Lo Conversion[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]ARB Underbonnet Compressor[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]GME TX3440[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]T-Max 10,000lb winch[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]Safari Snorkel[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]Milford Cargo Barrier[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]Rhino HD Roofies & AT1410 Roof Tray[b]}[/b] [b]{[/b]60L Waeco[b]}[/b]
                  [img]http://www.gifs.net/Animation11/Transportation/Cars/4_wheel_drive.gif[/img]

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                  • #114
                    Re: Crammy's GXL D4D

                    some one will get a great buy here


                    joey 8)
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