Yep the stock figure of 132 Kw is at engine - not 4 wheels.
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Assuming a 40% loss through the drive line, your engine is probably putting out around 200KW at the flywheel now. Not a bad increase from 132KW[B]Declan[/B]: [SIZE=1]1997 GXL 4.5 Auto 80 series on [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]LPG[/COLOR][/B], ARB bullbar, 2" OME lift, 32" MTZ, GME UHF, rear ARB locker, Kaymar spare wheel carrier[/SIZE]
[B]PLANNED[/B]: [SIZE=1]3 or 4" suspension lift, 2" body lift (maybe), winch, 35" MTZ + roadies, front locker, sliders, cylinder head rebuilt for [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]LPG[/COLOR][/B], Garret [COLOR="#4499ff"][B]Turbocharger[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE]
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Hi Glen,
Very similar results to mine, with a URD 7 psi pulley my Prado produced 130.9 kw @ 4700 rpm then the belt started to slip.
Some alternator adjustment fixed that issue.
The big improvement I reckon though is the torque, 575 nm @ 2600 rpm is a huge improvement on the 303 nm @ 3600 rpm, 270 nm more at 1000 rpm less.... great for 4 wheeling.
The torque improvment is why I believe fuel consumption doesn't suffer as one would expect because your usually in a higher gear running at a lower rpm.
Congrats on a great install.
Lee'18 VX, Billies with Dobinson springs, Summit bar with Narva Enhanced Optics to help my old eyes
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Cheers Lee
Yes the torque change is the most amazing, and would explain why this thing can take off so aggressively. The figure seems too high though - perhaps it's a glitch such such as the TC not being locked up at the beginning of the run. I'll ask them for torque charts and see.glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90
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Last edited by glen_ep; 17-12-2013, 11:36 PM.glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90
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Every time you post something, I cry harder...[B][URL="http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?30380-Ratsack-s-90-Series-Prado"]Toyota Prado GXL Kimberly - 95 Series - 3.4L V6[/URL][/B]
[QUOTE=maulbeagle;469810]Have heard that the fuel consumption of the petrol engine is horrendous ?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=amts;469812]Heard that a replacement D4D engine is horrendous [/QUOTE]
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haha keep in mind this build up has occurred slowly over a few years now.. if I had everything in one go I would have become bored! The slow progression keeps it interesting. Keep looking after your rig and it'll provide you with plenty fun in futureglen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90
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Yours is pretty much how I want mine eventually.
Just a few questions...
Did you find the 4.88 were needed or more that you just preferred/wanted them?
Was the body lift much of a hassle?
Did you do most of the mods yourself or get a mechanic to do most of it?[B][URL="http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?30380-Ratsack-s-90-Series-Prado"]Toyota Prado GXL Kimberly - 95 Series - 3.4L V6[/URL][/B]
[QUOTE=maulbeagle;469810]Have heard that the fuel consumption of the petrol engine is horrendous ?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=amts;469812]Heard that a replacement D4D engine is horrendous [/QUOTE]
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Originally posted by ratsack View PostYours is pretty much how I want mine eventually.
Just a few questions...
Did you find the 4.88 were needed or more that you just preferred/wanted them?
Was the body lift much of a hassle?
Did you do most of the mods yourself or get a mechanic to do most of it?
I'd say the body lift was the biggest modification I've undertaken, and it wouldn't have been as successful or engineered without access to a good welder. Body lifts can be done "on the cheap", but they shouldn't be.
Hmm I started out letting the pros do the work (ARB suspension, bar, snorkel) but slowly took over pretty much everything. I performed the bodylift alone with assistance only for welding. All mechanicals and mods since then have been by myself except for cases where special skills or equipment were required (ie, chassis welding, pressing of ball joints or bearings, exhaust bending, diff internals). I now avoid mechanics for 364 days a year. 4wding is an expensive hobby - if you don't learn how to work on your car you'd better be incredibly rich!glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90
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Originally posted by berniebgf View PostFantastic.
Any restrictions with the Snorkel?
Did you get to do some Dyno run's with and without it?
Bernie
The most obvious restriction on the dyno day was my new exhaust - it's a 2.5" pipe with cat and single muffler. It's restrictiveness was very obvious to the tuner, and definitely prevented higher Kw figures. My preference for torque, low noise, legalities and passing emissions, means I can't open it too much. I'm certain if it was opened up more the Kw would be over 130.
BTW - the tuner himself used to have his own supercharged 3.4L 90 series, and reached around 170 Kw with a smaller pulley and; I think; gas injection.glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90
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Originally posted by glen_ep View PostCheers Lee
Yes the torque change is the most amazing, and would explain why this thing can take off so aggressively. The figure seems too high though - perhaps it's a glitch such such as the TC not being locked up at the beginning of the run. I'll ask them for torque charts and see.glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90
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Another question mate. Do you think an exhaust setup is worth it on a N/A engine?[B][URL="http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?30380-Ratsack-s-90-Series-Prado"]Toyota Prado GXL Kimberly - 95 Series - 3.4L V6[/URL][/B]
[QUOTE=maulbeagle;469810]Have heard that the fuel consumption of the petrol engine is horrendous ?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=amts;469812]Heard that a replacement D4D engine is horrendous [/QUOTE]
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Aftermarket extractors are nice as they slightly improve the weak spot at 2,750 RPM (?) - but if money is tight I'd recommend spending money elsewhere. The rest of the exhaust is definitely not worth touching with NA.
Even with a supercharger the stock pipe and mufflers are perfectly fine - as long as the variable pressure valve from the large muffler is removed (and replace extractors).glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90
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