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    Had cause to stop and assist some people in their rented Pajero. They were on the Bandya Road heading for Mulga Queen community out of Laverton. They'd blown a rear tyre (stock Bridgestone). They had no idea where any of the jacking equipment was nor how to get the spare off the back.

    I look inside. Fold open the floor panel, lift the third row seat and there's the bright orange jack and jack handle. Without worrying about looking for the wheel brace I grab my 12 volt impact driver and wooden base plate. Crawl onto the wet and dusty gravel, place the jack and crank up the rear end. Using the driver, off comes the flat tyre.

    Now to get the spare. What ABSOLUTE CRAZY TWIT designed that STUPID rear cover? You have to pull two little covers from the inner door, undo two long bolts (12v driver was handy here). This then allows the cover to swing away from the outside of the door so you can then remove the 3 special nuts holding the spare tyre in place.

    Put the spare onto the axle, drop the jack, put everything back into place. All the time it's piddling down and all the gear in the back of the car gets soaked because you have to have the door open for so long while you remove and replace the spare wheel. Then, when you bolt the flat tyre in place, it rattles like crazy because it's been designed to rely on the inflated tyre to get the proper nut tightness.

    What a piece of shite. Total time to change = 35 minutes. 20km down the road I come across another group in a bog stock 09 GX Prado with a flat tyre (skinny Grandtreks). Tyre changed by me in 12 minutes flat.

    Common theme with both cars was people in unfamiliar vehicles driving on unfamiliar roads. Pajero tyres were at 55 psi and Prado were at 50. Replacement tyres sourced at Laverton came to $750 for the two.
    Dave
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    Bugger Bali, get out and see Australia before we sell it all to China.

  • #2
    Re: Pajero - pain in the a---

    Guess there's another reason we drive prados?
    2014 D4D 150 GXL Automatic - CHARCOAL

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    • #3
      Re: Pajero - pain in the a---

      50-55 PSI :shock: :shock: :shock:
      glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90

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      • #4
        Pajero - pain in the a---

        Having had a late model Pajero with the spare tyre cover you're referring too I don't reckon they're that bad.

        Undo two bolts inside back door and the cover hinges across out of the way to get at the spare.

        Compare that to the 150 Prado and you have to pull the cover off around the camera, undo a bolt, unclip a few clips and then lift the whole cover off before getting at the spare wheel.

        Then you have to remove the key part from the remote to undo the lock nut (not required on the Pajero because the locking bolts are inside the car). Also, with the Prado, on a muddy dirt track, you've got to put the nice cover down in the mud whilst you change the tyre where as the Pajero one hinges nicely out of the way.

        Probably a lot easier on a 120 with no cover.

        I hope they shouted you a few beer for being so generous with your time Some people would simply refer them to the manual and keep driving. Good work for lending a hand!
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        • #5
          Re: Pajero - pain in the a---

          50-55psi is crazy, surprising they didn't lose all four!

          I still don't understand tyre covers though, other than looking "pretty". Personally I think being able to see the tyre as more attractive!
          I'll stick with my undoing of 3 bolts to take the spare off... easy!
          <Rob> '12 Prado GX - https://www.pradopoint.com.au/forum/general/my-rig-build-up/32702-i-m-back-with-a-2012-150-gx-toorak-tractor

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          • #6
            Re: Pajero - pain in the a---

            I had one of those shiney stainless steel covers on my 98 Prado. I blew a tyre out near Ayers Rock and couldn't get the cover to go back over the busted tyre so I had it rattling around in the back of the car for the following 3 weeks or so. Now I reckon covers are for those boulevarde cruisers who only use their 4bees to take the kids to those snobby private schools.
            Dave
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            • #7
              Re: Pajero - pain in the a---

              The rear tyre pressure for a Hyundai iMax is 51psi as recommended on the tyre placard when fully loaded. So maybe it's not that bad when on highways and fully loaded for the Prado.

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              • #8
                Re: Pajero - pain in the a---

                I dropped all their tyres down to around 30psi and they had no more dramas for the next 3 or 4 days that I saw them in the area. I usually run in the vicinity of 27 - 28psi but also drop the speed down a bit too. These guys were driving like they were still on the Mitchell freeway. It was fun watching them dodge the cattle and camels.
                Dave
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                Bugger Bali, get out and see Australia before we sell it all to China.

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                • #9
                  Re: Pajero - pain in the a---

                  Hertz, Thrifty, Budget, whoever, will rent a 4WD to anyone without an induction to the vehicle or any questions as to the driver's 4WD experience. Then they slug you when you bust a tyre or do other damage to the vehicle. Point in case: attached pics from a couple of local losers. Did one tyre (see stake), then drove on another flat until tyre shredded from the rim and then caused the vehicle to become bogged in soft mud. Go figure.

                  Bushbasher
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                  Last edited by Bushbasher; 24-12-2014, 10:59 PM.
                  Dave
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                  • #10
                    Re: Pajero - pain in the a---

                    Originally posted by glen_ep
                    50-55 PSI :shock: :shock: :shock:
                    Surprisingly there are still people out there that actually increase tyre pressures when the leave the black top :shock: I Reckon that almost every person that i have come across with a blown tyre on an outback road had tyre pressures over 40PSI. I once stopped for a guy who was fixing a flat in an ML500 Mercedes 4WD, he said no worries ive had plenty of practice 5 flatties in 2 days. When i enquired about what pressure he was running he told me he dropped a few PSI after each flat and was now going to try 38psi :roll:

                    Keep up the good work bushbasher, i guess this is why you get paid the big bucks

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                    • #11
                      Re: Pajero - pain in the a---

                      Originally posted by Bushbasher

                      What a piece of shite. Total time to change = 35 minutes. 20km down the road I come across another group in a bog stock 09 GX Prado with a flat tyre (skinny Grandtreks). Tyre changed by me in 12 minutes flat.
                      Wow someone's a bit bias :mrgreen:

                      I personally don't feel the Pajero spare wheel is a dilemma - certainly not as bad as you suggest. I drive Pajero's for work and have never had a problem. Besides I reckon they look good.

                      I'm not a die-hard Mitsu or Toyota fan. I think both the Pajero and the Prado are great cars and are both capable at what they're designed for.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Pajero - pain in the a---

                        No doubt they didn't figure on having to change a tyre in the rain.

                        Yes, I agree that the Paj is good at what it was designed to do and the market that it is aimed at. After 'cruisers, Patrols, Hiluxes and Jackaroos it's probably the next most common 4x4 found out in the wilds of WA.
                        Dave
                        Views expressed are mine alone and are not intended to compromise the integrity of my employer nor offend those who may read such views.
                        Bugger Bali, get out and see Australia before we sell it all to China.

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