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  • #46
    Now Malaysia are asking for help from the UK/US/Aus to release their military spy satellite data. So maybe it's a foreign power conspiracy to get access to and understanding of the West's capabilities particularity Pine Gap and JORN

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/missing-...319-hvkf2.html
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    • #47
      Originally posted by r4ndll View Post
      Now Malaysia are asking for help from the UK/US/Aus to release their military spy satellite data. So maybe it's a foreign power conspiracy to get access to and understanding of the West's capabilities particularity Pine Gap and JORN

      http://www.smh.com.au/world/missing-...319-hvkf2.html
      Spy satellites? We would love to help, but I'm terribly sorry, you have mistaken for someone else.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Beach View Post
        Spy satellites? We would love to help, but I'm terribly sorry, you have mistaken for someone else.
        Aha yes. We only spy on our neighbours by mistake
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        • #49
          Originally posted by kav View Post
          How did the twin towers fall down a at the speed of free fall without the help of massive amounts of explosives from the inside
          Twin towers were steel framed buildings. Once the steel was weakened by impact and fire, they didn't need any 'massive amounts of explosives' to come down. Gravity did it.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by photoprado View Post
            Twin towers were steel framed buildings. Once the steel was weakened by impact and fire, they didn't need any 'massive amounts of explosives' to come down. Gravity did it.
            Thats doesn't explain the third building coming down.

            Then theres still the unanswered questions of the Pentagon. The physical evidence doesn't fit the story.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Beach View Post
              Thats doesn't explain the third building coming down.

              Then theres still the unanswered questions of the Pentagon. The physical evidence doesn't fit the story.
              If you mean no bits left on the lawns have a google there is a video out there of an airforce jet being slammed into a concrete barrier. What's left fits into a matchbox.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by mjrandom View Post
                If you mean no bits left on the lawns have a google there is a video out there of an airforce jet being slammed into a concrete barrier. What's left fits into a matchbox.
                Yes I saw all that and the rebuttal. I recall a lot of evidence (lack of baggage, height of the impact etc) and questions being asked and not a lot of answers. I can't be bothered googling it all again.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Beach View Post
                  Thats doesn't explain the third building coming down.
                  On September 11, 2001, 7 WTC was damaged by debris when the nearby North Tower of the World Trade Center collapsed. The debris also ignited fires, which continued to burn throughout the afternoon on lower floors of the building. The building's internal fire suppression system lacked water pressure to fight the fires, and the building collapsed completely at 5:21:10 pm, according to FEMA,[5] while the 2008 NIST study placed the final collapse time at 5:20:52 pm.[6] The collapse began when a critical internal column buckled and triggered structural failure throughout, which was first visible from the exterior with the crumbling of a rooftop penthouse structure at 5:20:33 pm. The collapse made the old 7 World Trade Center the first tall building known to have collapsed primarily due to uncontrolled fires,[7] and the first and only steel skyscraper in the world to have collapsed due to fire.[8]
                  Simples.

                  You have a steel structure supporting thousands of tonnes of building. You set an uncontrolled fire in it. The steel loses it's strength due to the heat. It comes down.
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                  • #54
                    MJ..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZjhxuhTmGk
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by photoprado View Post
                      Simples.

                      You have a steel structure supporting thousands of tonnes of building. You set an uncontrolled fire in it. The steel loses it's strength due to the heat. It comes down.
                      Yes seems plausible, but as I mentioned there was a lot of unanswered questions. I can't be bothered going over it all again.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by photoprado View Post
                        Simples.

                        You have a steel structure supporting thousands of tonnes of building. You set an uncontrolled fire in it. The steel loses it's strength due to the heat. It comes down.
                        You need to watch a DVD called 9/11 demolition and another one called zeitgeist . There was never enough heat generated to destabilise the steel and it was covered with asbestos. The twin towers were built and designed for to withstand exactly what happened to them but amazingly they didn't .
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                        • #57
                          Some live report on debris sighting SW of Perth
                          http://www.watoday.com.au/national/m...320-354xz.html

                          And more discussion on WP forum
                          http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...t=2236541&p=74

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by kav View Post
                            You need to watch a DVD called 9/11 demolition and another one called zeitgeist . There was never enough heat generated to destabilise the steel and it was covered with asbestos. The twin towers were built and designed for to withstand exactly what happened to them but amazingly they didn't .
                            I've seen masses of conspiracy issues on 9/11. Fodder for the gullible, and there is an army of fodder producers and consumers in the US. Mostly, we're a bit more realistic here in AU.

                            The problem with the questions and the reasons they don't get a lot of attention is that doing that just gives them oxygen.

                            We have a growing and healthy fodder industry here if you consider all the stuff about Pt Arthur that they put out.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by amts View Post
                              Some live report on debris sighting SW of Perth
                              Who ever was flying was probably coached by the same people who told the skipper of a refugee boat how to avoid Australia and get around the south coast to NZ. They didn't make it either.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by photoprado View Post
                                I've seen masses of conspiracy issues on 9/11. Fodder for the gullible, and there is an army of fodder producers and consumers in the US. Mostly, we're a bit more realistic here in AU.

                                The problem with the questions and the reasons they don't get a lot of attention is that doing that just gives them oxygen.

                                We have a growing and healthy fodder industry here if you consider all the stuff about Pt Arthur that they put out.
                                That's the beauty of conspiracy theories:
                                - any shred of evidence that supports your claim, and you've proved your theory.
                                - No evidence? Well that just indicates there is a massive cover-up by someone - the government, big oil, big pharma, the lizard people etc
                                - If some of your evidence is proved wrong, well that's just misinformation which proves you were right!
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