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    Thought I would share my experience from the Great Divide Tours Driver Training course my wife and I participated in on the weekend just gone (7-8/03/09). It was held at Vic Widman's dedicated training facility near Braidwood NSW. It was 240 acres of fun

    Saturday we left home in Sydney at 6.00am and arrived in Golburn at just after 8.00am at the meeting point for 8.30am. On the way down the temp display on the dash was reading 9 degrees and we were wondering what we were getting ourselves in for :shock:
    The meeting point at Golburn


    Nice and clean before the fun begins.


    After arriving and having morning tea and being sorted into our two groups (7 in Group 1, our group and 8 in vehicles in Group 2) we went out for our first exercise Stall Recovery
    Uphill

    Downhill


    After lunch was a Rocky Creek Crossing


    Steep Ascent and Descent Exercises. What was great about this was being able to first try the descent with just using the brake and then using DAC.


    Side Slopes, Rock Steps and Log Crossings, Traversing Erosion Mounds etc



    Then set up camp


    After dinner we had a talk in the training room about vehicle set up like fitting accessories like suspension, bullbars, lights dual batteries and the like


    The next day we were up for Brekkie at 7.00am and another day playing in the bush
    Mud Driving on the skid pan


    Log Bridge exercise with your partner giving directions :roll:


    Entering/Exiting washouts, bog holes etc and practise on the 4WD test track




    There was a snatch and airbag demonstration and the fun part sand driving


    All in all it was fun 2 days and even the wife enjoyed it. You always felt safe and in control with the guidance from Vic and John but some of Vic's jokes need work :lol: :lol:
    Myself and the wife got a lot out of it and are keen for the advanced course but first we need to put into practice what we learnt and then build on from there.

    I highly recommend anyone doing this course (or any other Registered Training organisation's) if you are a beginner like us. There was more to what I have posted here but this will give you the general idea.

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    Re: My Driver Training Experience

    Hi MDS69
    It looks like you guys had a top weekend, with some nice action shots their.
    I definitely agree with you that anyone would benefit from a Driver training/instructional course.
    Even the seasoned veteran might pick up some useful knowledge from either the course instructors or
    other course participants.
    February 2008 I enrolled my Wife and I to attend "Adventure 4WD" at Collinswood in Adelaide S.A.
    Their course is called "First Time Out". Basically offers a mid-week evening theory session that is followed
    by a full day practical in the field. My main logic behind the course was to introduce the Lovely Wife to the joy
    of offroading, and to convince her that the Prado is quite capable of tackling the type of tracks and country we are to encounter.
    The other factor is a safety one, Its no good if {She whom must be obeyed} cannot handle the vehicle should an emergency occur.
    So I say money well spent and it gives the dead leg a rest as well when she is Driving.


    http://www.adventure4wd.com.au
    SOUTH AUSTRALIA GATEWAY TO THE OUTBACK!
    2003 GXL V6 AUTO 120 CHAMPAGNE MICA [DUNE]
    LIST OF ACCESSORIES GROWING, WISH LIST SLOWLY DECLINING

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    • #3
      Re: My Driver Training Experience

      Sounds like you had a great time. I'd like to get the wife to something like this sometime.
      Just a few questions..

      Not trying to put it down at all, but I noticed on the log bridge crossing, they're cut flat on top. I understand they want to keep everyone safe and avoid damage but I have been across many log bridges and all of them have been logs dumped across a hole/creek etc and never have they been anything but round and slippery on top. Did they mention anything on this, or maybe we're missing the photo of that bridge?

      and I've forgotten the other question :roll:

      It looks good, I'm just trying to sus out whether it's right for us or if an advanced course is a better option.
      I've had plenty of offroad experience but the wife's been limited to what we've done in the last 7 years which hasn't been that much really. I'm sure I'd learn a thing or 2 anyway.
      Cheers - Phil Taylor

      Prado KZJ120 2006 GX 3.0ltr Manual TJM T13 Bar, Airtec Snorkel, Sand/snow mats, cargo barrier, Cruise, Budget Campertrailer, 8x17" steelies w/ 265/70/R17 Mickey Thompson ATZ 4 ribs, Binatone GPS, Other Stuff...

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      • #4
        Re: My Driver Training Experience

        Great write up MDS69

        Its a great facility, and as stated, everyone can learn something from these courses. I am trying to find a free weekend that co-incides with Vics Advanced Training Course later this year.
        [color=#0040FF]Rob[/color]
        [color=#0040BF]2012 Altitude D4D &
        04 Jayco Eagle Outback[/color]

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        • #5
          Re: My Driver Training Experience

          Originally posted by FlyingBushPig
          Sounds like you had a great time. I'd like to get the wife to something like this sometime.
          Just a few questions..

          Not trying to put it down at all, but I noticed on the log bridge crossing, they're cut flat on top. I understand they want to keep everyone safe and avoid damage but I have been across many log bridges and all of them have been logs dumped across a hole/creek etc and never have they been anything but round and slippery on top. Did they mention anything on this, or maybe we're missing the photo of that bridge?

          and I've forgotten the other question :roll:

          It looks good, I'm just trying to sus out whether it's right for us or if an advanced course is a better option.
          I've had plenty of offroad experience but the wife's been limited to what we've done in the last 7 years which hasn't been that much really. I'm sure I'd learn a thing or 2 anyway.
          Hi FBP,
          You are 100% correct with the flat logs for the bridge. The bridges I have seen with round logs (and due to my experience or lack of that is not many) have multiple logs for each wheel track. I didn't see a round log bridge and there wasn't any disussion on them unfortunately.

          After reading a few of the comments regarding wifes, mine was aprrehensive at the start of a couple of the exercises but once she saw what the vehicle and herself was capable of she was fine and had a blast all weekend. The only real trouble was trying to convince her to edge out over a fairly steep descent without using the brake and let the DAC do all the work.

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          • #6
            Re: My Driver Training Experience

            Originally posted by MDS69
            The next day we were up for Brekkie at 7.00am and another day playing in the bush
            Mud Driving on the skid pan
            How new is that skid pan? There wasn't anything like that when I did my course a few years back.

            Originally posted by FlyingBushPig
            Not trying to put it down at all, but I noticed on the log bridge crossing, they're cut flat on top. I understand they want to keep everyone safe and avoid damage but I have been across many log bridges and all of them have been logs dumped across a hole/creek etc and never have they been anything but round and slippery on top. Did they mention anything on this, or maybe we're missing the photo of that bridge?
            The course caters for absolute beginners so that bridge excercise is more introducing the concept of giving and listening to directions, rather than how to tackle log crossings.

            It's a great course, would recommend this to everyone. Makes you think about a few core concepts of 4wding e.g. wheel placement, traction, etc.

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            • #7
              Re: My Driver Training Experience

              Looks good, would like to send the missus on this course to give her more confidence off road. Plus Im sure I could learn a thing or two.

              PomP
              2008 Charcoal GXL V6
              [b]Suspension[/b] >< OME springs and shockers
              [b]Tyres[/b] >< Pirelli Scorpian ATR
              [b]Chassis[/b] >< ARB Deluxe Bullbar><Tow bar
              [b]GPS[/b] >< AVIC HD3>< Ncom G351 running ozi
              [b]UHF[/b] >< GME3440
              [b]Accessories[/b] ARB Dual battery system><Rear Camera><Safari Snorkel>
              [b]Brake Controller[/b] Hayman Reece

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              • #8
                Re: My Driver Training Experience

                Looks like you had a great time MDS69.

                I might give it a go soon... would be a good idea to possibly organise a group training session... for fellow beginers that is.
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                • #9
                  Re: My Driver Training Experience

                  Hi Trojan,

                  Like me you are most probably an experienced 4WD'er. I have owned & operated 4X4's since the early 80's.
                  I have been through my phase of heavily modified vehicles (and lots of carnage), but I am very content to just 'tour' now with my camper.
                  I have done some wonderful trips with Vic, his staff have far more experience than I have, and I will probably go back and do a refesher advanced course with him this year.
                  This isn't a plug for Vic, but not everyone wants to go to their vehicles extreme limits, most just starting are keener just to find out the correct operation, and in a controlled enviorment (like you said) discover what their vehicle is capable of. Do you remember the fear you felt the first time you sat at the bottom (or top) of you first serious hill ?
                  There is a place for all, if after doing an intro course someone feels like pushing the limits a little further, then clubs offer the best enviorment you can get......... just horses for courses.
                  [color=#0040FF]Rob[/color]
                  [color=#0040BF]2012 Altitude D4D &
                  04 Jayco Eagle Outback[/color]

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                  • #10
                    Re: My Driver Training Experience

                    Hi all

                    As an ex 4WD training instructor for one of the Brisbane 4WD clubs, I would never disagree with attending a course like the Vic Widman one even though it may be controlled. On the other hand, you can get just as good a course for the cost of one year's membership to a 4WD club. As someone said on this post - practice is what everybody needs so my advice is to get as much practice as time and money can afford.

                    Just my 2 bob's worth - cheers - John
                    Dune D4D GXL, ARB bar & racks, Kings/Bilsteins, diff & g'box breathers, underbody protection, air comp, brake controller, Garmin Nuvi, Scangauge II, AGM aux battery & RanOx.

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