Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

WA Question

Collapse
X
Collapse
 
  • Page of 1
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
Previous template Next
  • #1

    WA Question

    In my off road, and beach, travels in the region I've seen a fair few unregistered dune buggies and quads/atv's

    Can these be used legally on dirt roads through forests and also on remote beaches - I'm deliberatley being vague as to location - but it's not to hard to work out where for the folks who know :wink:

    I know Lancelin is a no go area for these..........
    Tags: None
  • #2
    Re: WA Question

    I may be wrong, but as far as I know there are no areas where unregistered buggies or quads can ride legally unless on private land. There are also only 4 areas I know of that these vehicles can be ridden legally if they have an Offroad Vehicle Licence and these are Lancelin, Gnangara, Pinjar and Kwinana. Does anyone else know of other areas?

    Cheers
    Wayne
    2000 VX Grande 3.4L , Bonnet/Light protectors , Toyota tow bar & bullbar,Hayman Reece brake controller, GME 3220 UHF, TJM Compressor,Nane 7200 spotties, Safari Snorkel, TJM XGS Gold suspension, Magellan Crossover, Cheap GPS with Ozi Explorer and Pradopoint sticker

    Comment

    • #3
      Re: WA Question

      I ride my 4 wheel bike on beaches that vehicles are allowed on, such as Hamelin Bay, Wonnerup etc. It has Offroad Vehicle Licence, and I assumed it was ok for these to be on the beach with other vehicles :?

      I have never been stopped on these beaches, even when Ranger goes past, but now I dunno. I pay a licence for the rego, but I dont really know if it covers insurance. I doubt it, as licence is only $6
      Cheers

      Daz

      2004 TD GXL Auto Prado

      Comment

      • #4
        Re: WA Question

        I thought you only needed a license if you were on a gazetted road. Totally unsure about that though. If you go through state forest, a greenie guy at work tells me it can be a $2000.00 fine if you get caught in there without permission. Although in all his tree hugging days he says he's never been fined, and has seen plenty of rangers etc out there. Similar with beaches etc, strictly speaking you should only go where the local shire permits you to go, otherwise the rangers can stick you with a fine. If you're in an unlicensed vehicle at the time then wouldn't that be a police matter? I'm not sure a ranger would do anything about an unlicensed vehicle. Even then, can you still be fined for driving an unlicensed vehicle if you're not actually on a gazetted road?
        [b]#[/b] 2007 D4D GX [b]#[/b] Full Privacy Tint [b]#[/b] [color=#FF0000][b] Flinders Red [/b][/color] [b]#[/b] 2 x HID LightForce 240 Blitz [b]#[/b] ARB Winch Bar [b]#[/b] Alloy Rims [b]#[/b] Hilux Washer Jets [b]#[/b] Stebel Nautilus Compact Truck Horn [b]#[/b] ARB Alloy Roof Rack [b]#[/b] ARB Dual Battery System [b]#[/b] Charcoal Rough Country Canvas Seat Covers [b]#[/b] [color=#0000FF]Suspension:[/color]Autocraft Bilstein Shocks/Struts & Ridepro Coils [b]#[/b] [color=#0000FF]L.E.D[/color] Side Marker Lights [b]#[/b] ARB Onboard Air [b]#[/b] Pirelli Scorpion LT ATR 265/70's [b]#[/b][color=#0080FF]--Custom 3"exhaust---[/color]

        Comment

        • #5
          Re: WA Question

          Good questions IP, and I dont think Bob P has an answer to his question yet either.

          I seem to recall WA Council Rangers, DEC Rangers and others may have been given a bit more authority recently, maybe crossing boundaries :?: :?: .
          On council managed beaches, the Council Rangers certainly dish out fines to cars if they arent allowed there, and CALM Rangers can dish out fines in their area.

          But ATVs and the like, might need to ring DEC and find out to be sure.
          Cheers

          Daz

          2004 TD GXL Auto Prado

          Comment

          • #6
            Re: WA Question

            If the road is gazetted then you need to be a licenced driver and driving a registered vehicle.

            In state forests and other DEC managed land the area would be have to be approved for off-road RV/ATV/dirt bike use. Most of these areas would ban such recreational use due to fire hazard, track damage and conservation issues.

            Designated areas such as Lancelin have just been upgraded to require ATV to be licenced. As mentioned recently prior to Easter long weekend DEC and WA Police announced changes to the RV areas around Lancelin and Wedge, they also reduced the approved areas and were going to target unregistered ATVs.

            Most beaches close to town areas have either banned or limited RV access. They should be sign-posted. Parry Beach near Denmark requires all beach going vehicles to be licenced so your ATVs and bikes have to have RV licences or open street licences. They don't so much worry about the licence status of the rider.

            Shire areas normally prohibit the use of RVs around town areas and rangers are responsible for policing infringements by these riders. Uncontrolled crown land is basically free range. Here in Kal the city council has a dust management program whereby you can be fined for riding your dirt bike/quad around the townsite causing a dust issue. It's way out of control here. Every day of the week dozens of riders flout the law and ride along sealed roads on their way to the bush areas. They even gather at the big BP truck stop and refuel and eat mornos without any care of being challenged about out they got there on their unlicenced machines. The police can't stop them because as soon as they get sight of a police car they head out into the scrub and the coppers can't follow. It seems to be an accepted part of life here.

            It's a problem when you go to the nearby bush to play on the hills with your 4WD and you have to dodge racing quads and 5 year olds on mini bikes who drive with no consideration for anyone else.

            Check with the local authorities for licencing and access requirements to be sure.
            Dave
            Views expressed are mine alone and are not intended to compromise the integrity of my employer nor offend those who may read such views.
            Bugger Bali, get out and see Australia before we sell it all to China.

            Comment

            • #7
              Re: WA Question

              So if the road is not gazetted and you're stopped by a ranger, you could be fined for being where you're not supposed to be. But would not be fined for being in an unlicensed vehicle?

              If you weren't on a gazetted road or recognized ATV area, and were stopped by the police, would you be fined in an unlicensed vehicle??
              [b]#[/b] 2007 D4D GX [b]#[/b] Full Privacy Tint [b]#[/b] [color=#FF0000][b] Flinders Red [/b][/color] [b]#[/b] 2 x HID LightForce 240 Blitz [b]#[/b] ARB Winch Bar [b]#[/b] Alloy Rims [b]#[/b] Hilux Washer Jets [b]#[/b] Stebel Nautilus Compact Truck Horn [b]#[/b] ARB Alloy Roof Rack [b]#[/b] ARB Dual Battery System [b]#[/b] Charcoal Rough Country Canvas Seat Covers [b]#[/b] [color=#0000FF]Suspension:[/color]Autocraft Bilstein Shocks/Struts & Ridepro Coils [b]#[/b] [color=#0000FF]L.E.D[/color] Side Marker Lights [b]#[/b] ARB Onboard Air [b]#[/b] Pirelli Scorpion LT ATR 265/70's [b]#[/b][color=#0080FF]--Custom 3"exhaust---[/color]

              Comment

              • #8
                Re: WA Question

                Originally posted by IRON-PAWW
                So if the road is not gazetted and you're stopped by a ranger, you could be fined for being where you're not supposed to be. But would not be fined for being in an unlicensed vehicle?

                If you weren't on a gazetted road or recognized ATV area, and were stopped by the police, would you be fined in an unlicensed vehicle??
                This would depend on the situation, for example, people doing burnouts or other forms of dangerous driving on say private property where the public had some kind of right to general access, or property which was open to or accessible by the general public, and somebody got hurt or killed, then police could investigate and lay charges.

                The driving of a vehicle has to be on a "road", and this means a gazetted road that is not ordinarily closed to the public. It also includes the road verge. Then police could charge you with driving an unlicenced vehicle. If you're not on a "road" then they can't charge you for unregistered vehicle. There is also another anomaly which is when you drive a vehicle which cannot be registered, for example, a pee wee motor cycle. They are banned from the roads in WA and therefor cannot be registered. So if you were caught riding this down the middle of the road you could be fined for driving an unroadworthy vehicle but not an unregistered vehicle. You can still be done for drink driving, even on a pushie or a gofer, which also can't be registered for the road.

                What gets me most is those unresponsible parents who buy their kids small engined trail bikes or those little cheap quad bikes and then allow them to ride unsupervised around the neighbourhood. And if poor honest Joe Citizen runs one of the buggers over, then he is the one in the wrong.
                Dave
                Views expressed are mine alone and are not intended to compromise the integrity of my employer nor offend those who may read such views.
                Bugger Bali, get out and see Australia before we sell it all to China.

                Comment

                Previous template Next
                Working...
                X