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Originally posted by madmanmark82
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I have 150 recovery points on my 120 with the TJM T13. They are close to fitting straight on, I had to file the top hole slightly but easy enough to do. Lining up the nut plate, the bullbar mount and the recovery point on the other hand is another thing. I found a couple of pics for you.
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Speaking with an ARB rep today - the word is that ARB is likely to release rated recovery points that fit the deluxe bullbars in the 120's and 150 series. ETA in about 6 weeks time. The rep stated there's a product code already assigned but didn't have permission to release it just yet... Might be telling porky pies but revived my hopes nonetheless.11/2007 Prado GXL D4D Auto [B]BLACK [/B]Stock Option 1.Comment
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How did you go removing the bullbar chassis bolts?Originally posted by flying.kiwis View Post
I want to do the same thing, but haven't investigated on how to remove the bullbar captive nuts.[FONT=Century Gothic][B][SIZE=4][URL="http://www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?36057-Ryback-s-Flinders-Red-120"][COLOR="#B22222"]'04 120 Petrol Flinders Red GXL[/URL][/COLOR][/B][/FONT][/SIZE]
with ARB Catalog, with TJM add ons!
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Awesome.Originally posted by Lycaon View Post
I'll add that to the wish list too.
Other than rear bars, what have people done for rear recovery points?2007 GXL V6 - ARB Bullbar with LED lights, snorkel, extractors, 2 1/4" dual exhaust, K&N filter, dimpled/slotted rotors, headrest dvd players, Ebay Satnav/reverse camera, GME 3100TX, Tigerz11 Side awning on custom brackets with Maxtrax mounts, 300W Invertor, ARB Underbody protection, Lightbar and STZ 265/70 tyres.
Wish list in order I'll get them: Sliders, 2" lift, E-locker, Winch bar with winch.Comment
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Have a look at mine here http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...l=1#post228469Originally posted by BiLLz0r View Post
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I have definitely heard the voice of the many on this forum that say the front "tie down" loops on a 120 are not recovery points!
My question is then why is the pin that goes through then end of the winch cable to attach the hook ok to use when it is smaller in Diameter that the "tie down loops?
A chain is only as strong as its weakest link after all.
I would think that the "Tie Down" loop would be stronger than the small pin held in place by a small split pin not much larger than a paper clip. After all they go through the chassis and are welded in place. They are as think as the bolts used to bolt a recovery point in place.Comment
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Winching is a lot different to snatching, the forces are easily measured with a winch, but rather unknown for a snatch.Originally posted by TurboD4D View Post
Also not all steel is the same, the pin on a winch hook would likely be a much higher grade than the tie down loops are made from. That pin would also be made to a standard, would have been tested and rated. the tie down points have no such testing or rating.
Ultimately its the weld that I see as the issue, nothing wrong with a weld as such, if its done to a suitable standard. But no one has yet been able to give me any info at all on any standard or testing that may or may not have been done to those points.
So it all then comes back individual assessments on suitability. The early model 120s had the loops welded underneath the cross member, that was a particularly bad design for recoveries and my observations of some of the welds on those points were that they were at best pretty ordinary.
the later models are certainly an improvement and may be OK, but there again I have observed a significant difference between the weld quality on different vehicles, some with sections of weld missing or only penetrating one piece of the steel not both.
As I have a said a few times regarding these points, what you I or anyone else thinks is good enough is irrelevant, its the guy going to recover you whose opinion counts.
Hopefully ARB do release a "rated" recovery point and then all these arguments are mute.
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If in doubt, save your self some money, put a bridle around both of the lower control arms. Good luck trying to pull them off.Dave
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I doubt arb are about to release the rates point. They have had part numbers for them for over a year...Comment
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If ARB aren't releasing recovery points that fit their bullbars, what other brand do others use? i have ARB Deluxe bar if that helps...Comment
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Outback Ideas are one brand, I think they are the ones I have? Bought them From Roadrunner Off-road I think
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04 Silver Diesel GXL with lots of stuff
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These should fit http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...l=1#post472740Originally posted by rorza View PostComment
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Blake
04 Silver Diesel GXL with lots of stuff
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Those are only good for people that run Sovereign bull bars, or stock bumpers.
As I have TJM T13, I need the 150 recovery points....dunno about ARB land though....[FONT=Century Gothic][B][SIZE=4][URL="http://www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?36057-Ryback-s-Flinders-Red-120"][COLOR="#B22222"]'04 120 Petrol Flinders Red GXL[/URL][/COLOR][/B][/FONT][/SIZE]
with ARB Catalog, with TJM add ons!
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