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  • #76
    I can't beleave the short sightedness of this thread!!

    Doesn't matter where you get your fuel from as the consumer is protected against Dirty/contaminated fuel stations and provided that you have proof of purchase and can prove it came from there tanks followed by full proof of regular maintenance of your vehicle to manufacturers service requirements etc, The guarantee is the same right across the board and applies to all servo's Australia wide.

    Obviously if you go to an old servo Remote or burbs then the odds of picking-up silt or water from there tanks will be higher than a high-turnover new servo as there tanks would most-likely be clean, then the painful road of proving it will be no different than if its BP or who ever. Read the guide-lines of protocol of being able to make a claim.

    I never buy fuel if a tanker is dropping fuel as it would be obvious that all silt and water has been stirred from the bottom of the tanks.

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    • #77
      Hey Roo, you use exclusivly BP fuel and how many K's did you get before needing major work done on your motor? I already know the answer to that question and it is one of the reasons why I don't believe that BP is really any better than most other brands.

      As for using any fuel, Lets see, on my Cape York trip when I got to Bourke and needed fuel, every fuel station in town barr 1 had run out of diesel, so you buy what you can get.

      Mount dare Before Madigans, I had to top up with fuel and you get what you get, there are no other options. Same deal when I needed fuel at Drysdale Station on the Kalumbaru road, there is no where else to go for fuel so you get what you can get. I could go on and on with examples of situations where I have had no choice in what brand of diesel I buy, thats just life.

      As for the gaurantee, I only have personal experience with dodgy fuel on one occasion, a local servo had a few hundred litres of diesel put into the unleaded bowser by mistake and the tanker driver didn't tell anyone, our camry had minor issues and others in town had major issues, the servo in question came to the party for us and a few others I know, a free tank of fuel for us and mechanics bills paid for others. It was an independant service station.

      Hey Snaga, are you confused yet

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      • #78
        Originally posted by AJ120 View Post
        Hey Snaga, are you confused yet

        Cheers Andrew
        Nah, it's all good reading
        That's what makes forums great... we think we know something but sometimes it just takes one question to be raised to realize we don't have all the facts in order or there might actually be varied opinions out there.

        Keep it coming I say
        Cheers, Leon
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        • #79
          Originally posted by Snaga View Post
          Nah, it's all good reading
          That's what makes forums great... we think we know something but sometimes it just takes one question to be raised to realize we don't have all the facts in order or there might actually be varied opinions out there.

          Keep it coming I say
          Yep I agree Snaga, some good and interesting stuff in this thread. A good debate held in good spirit, hopefully we all learn something from it

          Topped up the tank in the Prado this afternoon, with BP now to go and burn it all this weekend!

          Cheers Andrew
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          • #80
            No disrespect intended, Roo. But what protection is tipping some Flashlube into your tank going to give you for fuel that isn't BP? It's just an "upper cylinder lubricant", isn't it, as opposed to a "cetane booster" (if there is such a thing).

            Most "additives" on the market today have been debunked as snake oil over the years. Nobody has yet come up with scientific (not anecdotal) proof that any of that stuff really works. It's mainly based on testimonials from satisfied customers. Much like "BP is the better fuel, because they guarantee it" claims.

            Until it's proven otherwise, I'm happy to toodle around in my reliable 110,000km Prado, running on whatever quality fuel I can buy (as I always have), when I need it, and having faith that it'll keep on trucking because it's a good car.

            Life's too short to worry about what brand of fuel's available where. It's just a car, guys.
            Last edited by John; 07-06-2012, 08:19 PM.
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            • #81
              Gday ##########

              Quote: Skywalker, so what's your favourite diesel fuel then? Just a one liner if possible

              Answer: I don't have a favorite fuel! I am driven by the shopper docket that gives the best deal.... Mostly Caltex and shell depending on which docket i have or mostly score off my girlfriend. Both sevo's in Umina (Central coast NSW) are practically brand new so i only buy from there. Full tank gets me to Noosa & back so no worries for fuel stops on long trips.

              Eeeek!!.. Damit! There goes the one liner response!... Lol

              Cheers

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              • #82
                What impact will the Shell Refinery closing have on the supply of either BP or Caltex Diesel, will BP source their Diesel from Caltex and the diesel clatter issues end up occuring regardless of where we purchase our diesel. I filled the car this morning and asked what were BP doing in regard to the Shell closure and how it would impact on the supply of Diesel... the answer was "no problem BP has it's own refinery!" I suggested that they check as the two refineries in NSW are the Caltex and Shell at Kernel and Clyde. Response "Oh!"

                I'm not a mechanic but I don know my Prado runs better when filled with BP sourced diesel than it does on Caltex! Haven't used Shell or any of the independents as I am limited due to Lease committments!
                John
                2007 GXL D4D Auto, Stock standard! Now with Pirelli Scorpion ATR's 265/65 x 17
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                • #83
                  ...priceless...

                  I wonder if adding boiled kangaroo road kill will make the suspension bouncier....boing...boing....

                  Rather than risk being bitten by a snake..I get "bitten" by Wynns instead...they do a Spitfire product that is a diesel conditioner and cetaine improver..I keep a bottle in the passenger side door pocket...and use it when towing and when BP is not available and it truely makes a difference....but maybe not as much as real snake oil........
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Strawb View Post
                    What impact will the Shell Refinery closing have on the supply of either BP or Caltex Diesel, will BP source their Diesel from Caltex and the diesel clatter issues end up occuring regardless of where we purchase our diesel. I filled the car this morning and asked what were BP doing in regard to the Shell closure and how it would impact on the supply of Diesel... the answer was "no problem BP has it's own refinery!" I suggested that they check as the two refineries in NSW are the Caltex and Shell at Kernel and Clyde. Response "Oh!"

                    I'm not a mechanic but I don know my Prado runs better when filled with BP sourced diesel than it does on Caltex! Haven't used Shell or any of the independents as I am limited due to Lease committments!
                    BP diesel in Sydney already comes from Caltex. BP just put their own additives in post refining.
                    Riv39
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                    Last edited by Riv39; 12-06-2012, 04:42 PM. Reason: spelling doh!
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                    • #85
                      I see in an email from 4wd action that Toyota and caltex are teaming up for a fuel economy test.

                      From 4wd action email

                      Right now we're putting together the biggest-ever fuel economy comparo, with the help of Toyota Australia and Caltex Australia. We'll be driving three brand-new turbo-diesel dual-cab HiLuxes from Perth to Sydney via one of Australia's most iconic off-road tracks,
                      So if Toyota are happy with Caltex for that test I can't see any reason that Joe average would have a warranty claim knocked back for using their fuel.

                      Cheers Andrew
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                      • #86
                        I'm in the process of workig out what is wrong with my car, blows a fair bit of black smoke on cold starts. Toyota say it's the injectors and they reckon it's most likely due to poor fuel. they reckon it's gunna have algie in the tanks and if it does it's not covered. I've got an extended warranty and they are trying to squeeze out of it. I only ever use Shell fuel. Got to take the car back so they can check the tanks when they are not so full.
                        ...........Heaps of cool stuff

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                        • #87
                          Hey Roo, thanks for your comments. I think it's a disgrace the Toyota cant handle Australian fuel. How does that work? It's not like I'm going to Moes Servo. Keep you posted....but I'm hearing you
                          ...........Heaps of cool stuff

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                          • #88
                            Hey Roo don't foget BP diesel comes from the Caltex rifinery here in Sydney unlike you lucky QLD foke.
                            2010 150 Glacier White GXL D4D Auto

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Talktheroo View Post
                              It's my opinion that BP makes a better quality diesel fuel.
                              Yes my opinion, and you will not change that opinion no matter what. I love my BP. BP equals Best Petroleum at least when it comes to diesel.
                              I love my BP, the Roo.
                              This makes any argument pointless, so this thread is not about facts just statement of opinion?

                              Roo reading your posts it seems that you think BP are a perfect corporate citizen while Toyota are some sort of pariah. Like all companies BP have a primary purpose of making money (Deepwater Horizon, Texas City etc.). How do they ship their fuel to NSW, Vic and SA from Brissie? I doubt they would significantly reduce their profits by shipping fuel when they don't need to, just call me a cynic.

                              .
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                              Last edited by krypto; 23-06-2012, 03:40 PM.
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                              • #90
                                I think you hit the nail on the head, Krypto. I'd need conclusive proof before I believe the assertion that Brisbane produces most of NSW's diesel for a single brand. Imagine the transport cost and how much more expensive would BP be at the pump in NSW? They have to pass on the transport cost at the pump.....
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