OH dear - BLOCKED OIL PICKUP - in 19,000klms - this may save your engine

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Anthony

Took my reborn vehicle back to GSAS as they requested so they could check on work after about 200 kms. Has been performing well and the check of injector values all looked real good - 0; 0; -0.3; -0.3. No leaks. They asked me to bring it back for a oil change and check after 1,000 km just to be sure everything is OK.

They agree that it is a good idea to add an EGR blanking plate and he said he would do this when he does this oil change. He suggested a total blank rather than a 7 mm holed one. What do you think?

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Hi ####, Vehicle is 08 D4D and it does it in gear (D) and also when stationary. I notice it mostly at around 60k's. I have looked at another post a while ago and it was said it could be from the airbox. I have checked this and was also told to put screws in plastic clips under front guards, none of this has made any difference. It is not tyres or balance as have changed tyres and still the same.
Kind regards
Jon

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‼️Above post is heading off topic of this thread guys. Best to start another thread related to your issue so it can become useful for others later if a solution is found. Thanks.

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Anthony

Took my reborn vehicle back to GSAS as they requested so they could check on work after about 200 kms. Has been performing well and the check of injector values all looked real good - 0; 0; -0.3; -0.3. No leaks. They asked me to bring it back for a oil change and check after 1,000 km just to be sure everything is OK.

They agree that it is a good idea to add an EGR blanking plate and he said he would do this when he does this oil change. He suggested a total blank rather than a 7 mm holed one. What do you think?

7mm is the go.

Hi ####, Vehicle is 08 D4D and it does it in gear (D) and also when stationary. I notice it mostly at around 60k's. I have looked at another post a while ago and it was said it could be from the airbox. I have checked this and was also told to put screws in plastic clips under front guards, none of this has made any difference. It is not tyres or balance as have changed tyres and still the same.
Kind regards
Jon

This is one of those cases where it's going to be difficult to diagnose from here. Sorry.

‼️Above post is heading off topic of this thread guys. Best to start another thread related to your issue so it can become useful for others later if a solution is found. Thanks.

Ok.

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Wow. What interesting reading. As a nooby to this site and Prado owner I am horrified to look at my sump. Apparently the seals were done late last year under recall but the vehicle is 2006 grande with 140 Kay's All services were done by the dealer. Does that mean it is possibly 9 years of gunk building up? Booked in to trusted mechanic for oil change next week. And a BIG thanks to the heads up. Cheers Brian

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Wow. What interesting reading. As a nooby to this site and Prado owner I am horrified to look at my sump. Apparently the seals were done late last year under recall but the vehicle is 2006 grande with 140 Kay's All services were done by the dealer. Does that mean it is possibly 9 years of gunk building up? Booked in to trusted mechanic for oil change next week. And a BIG thanks to the heads up. Cheers Brian

If you have a IKD engine then just make sure the oil pick up is properly inspected at the next and every oil change ( and to make DOUBLY sure your mechanic knows what to look for, print out the pics on this thread and take them in )

I think the blocked pick up issue only occurs if there is a leaking seal and it happens within a few thousand km.

If you have noticed any white smoke from the tail pipe at start up, then get it checked straight away.

Anthony I am sure will advise if this is correct

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Anthony

Took my reborn vehicle back to GSAS as they requested so they could check on work after about 200 kms. Has been performing well and the check of injector values all looked real good - 0; 0; -0.3; -0.3. No leaks. They asked me to bring it back for a oil change and check after 1,000 km just to be sure everything is OK.

They agree that it is a good idea to add an EGR blanking plate and he said he would do this when he does this oil change. He suggested a total blank rather than a 7 mm holed one. What do you think?

you will need the mapper as well then otherwise the check light will come on with no egr flow

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you will need the mapper as well then otherwise the check light will come on with no egr flow

Going to go with the 7 mm

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if you have a ikd engine then just make sure the oil pick up is properly inspected at the next and every oil change ( and to make doubly sure your mechanic knows what to look for, print out the pics on this thread and take them in )

i think the blocked pick up issue only occurs if there is a leaking seal and it happens within a few thousand km.

If you have noticed any white smoke from the tail pipe at start up, then get it checked straight away.

Anthony i am sure will advise if this is correct

spot on wayne.

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I'm assuming there is a gasket for the oil pan and is this replaced when checking the oil pickup? If it is replaced has someone got the part number so I can get one before pulling this off? That is if you take the whole pan off as opposed to checking through the drain plug.

Cheers

Nick

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I'm assuming there is a gasket for the oil pan and is this replaced when checking the oil pickup? If it is replaced has someone got the part number so I can get one before pulling this off? That is if you take the whole pan off as opposed to checking through the drain plug.

Cheers

Nick

Hi Nick

I believe there is no gasket as such, a special sealant is use.

Take a look at the earlier posts by #### in this thread.

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Hi Nick

I believe there is no gasket as such, a special sealant is use.

Take a look at the earlier posts by #### in this thread.

Thanks Wayne, I think that was in relation to using silicon as a substitute for the sheet/washer, hence the Gotcha! LOL.

I just had a peep up the oil pan sump plug hole and found some white crap stuck to the pickup filter. So I pulled the oil pan off and found my pickup filter sparsely covered with silicon bits, most likely from factory or the excess internally broken off and sucked onto the pickup. Anyway the oil pan is sealed with silicon no gasket, I used "Loctite Hi Temp Red RTV Silicone", to reseal.

So no carbonised Oil! Phew.

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Hi Nick

I believe there is no gasket as such, a special sealant is use.

Take a look at the earlier posts by #### in this thread.

Spot on again.

Ultra grey or grey Maxx


This is what your oil pickup should look like at a 10,000k oil change, 20 minutes draining.


Don't worry if you see little bits of silicone, light grey in colour.

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How do we feel about an oil pressure gauge? I have just fitted one or rather an EGT/ Boost gauge with a digital oil pressure read out on the bottom?

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Record breaker

We don't really need an oil pressure gauge, unless we are not checking our oil pickups.
But if you lie one, then why not......



Another discovery this week. With the Toyota genuine revised coated seats/sheets/washers in place since 2008, on sets that have never been removed or disturbed, the earliest I ever found a leak was 238,000k.

Found one leaking, early stages, not blown the oil o-ring yet, it had 137,000k.
Lucky he is fussy, took it in to his usual mechanic, who sent him to me for diagnosis.
He was complaining of running rough when cold.
You will notice a compression difference/leak much more when cold.

See number 2.




Typical of a 2008, it had high total volume, feedbacks were out, one at -4.1, duration was long, load was high, etc.
Now with new injectors, she's happy for anther 120,000klms+.