Suspension Measurements 2

[Whitey]

Hey Roger,

I keep my fridge and battery and rear false floor etc. in all the time for that same purpose! Throw the rods in and off ya go!

Best

Mark

[rogjil]

Hi Mark

Yeah might have to go airbags, ideally want to keep the drawers basically full of stuff, battery, fridge, etc in the back all the time. Makes a day trip up Teewah/Rainbow easy.

Cheers Roger

[Whitey]

Hey rogjil,

Saggy rear end in the Prado is all too common! The OME rear coils are all a bit on the short side for the rear of the Prado, at only 390mm free height, and the 896's are made a bit stiffer in spring rate to try and get some lift.

It certainly looks like from your ride height numbers that the rear is sagging when loaded.

If you're going to do regular trips with the rear loaded up, I'd look into getting some airbags, they will keep the car nice and level.

Best

Mark

[rogjil]

Just had OME suspension fitted yesterday part nos 883 coils and 90000 struts on the front, 896 coils and 60005 shocks on the rear. No bar (next week if I am lucky and an upgrade to 884 coils) or winch or dual battery in the front. Nearly finished fitting out the back, 2nd battery, fridge, air compressor, installed custom draw setup nearly finished.

Before
FL: 745 FR: 750
RL: 750 RR:760

After
FL: 795 FR: 795
RL: 825 RR:830

Just back from 3 weeks on Fraser Island. The day before we left had ARB Sahara Bar fitted and the front coils replaced with part no 884. Didnt get a chance to check before we left but it looked very high at the front, but figured it might have been something to do with all the gear in the back, drawer unit full of stuff, 60l fridge, 120 a/hr agm battery, compressor, 50l water tank, full fuel etc. Current measurements with just the drawer carcass and battery in the back maybe 60kgs and just about zero fuel.

FL: 805 FR: 805
RL: 815 RR:820

Still looks down at the back to me, maybe it is just the side steps that give that impression. Also I need to jack it up and check droop as on the bumpy tracks I got the feeling the front needed more down travel. Otherwise happy with the ride and handling of the OME setup.

Agreed, front is too high. Droop shouldn't be a problem because it looks like only strut spacers were used. Need to space down the bumpstops though.

[mjrandom]

Jeepetr, front is too high without a diff drop. Was thus just installed? If so should drop a little, maybe 10mm but keep an eye on the CV angles and boots for leakage. What is the droop like? Measure this and post up because you don't want to top out the struts.

[JEEPETR]

Tough dog shocks
Ome 885 H/D springs
Front 760mm
Rear 840mm
ARB deluxe bar and 12000lb winch
I hate the nose dive look
so I added 40mm spacers raised the front 70mm
not happy as the front sits high at 830mm
do tough dog shocks have a lower spring seat than the others?

[AJ120]

So I had a 2" Dobinsons Kit installed yesterday.

Went from original setup with 220,000 Km's with a ARB Deluxe Winch Bar on front, and nothing in the back.
FL: 703 FR: 703
RL: 707 RR: 707

To having the Dobinsons Kit:
Front:
Springs: C59-302
Shocks: GS59-221

Rear:
Springs: C59-325
Shocks: GS59-701

FL: 790 FR: 790
RL: 803 RR: 803

You got a 4 inch lift for the price of a 2" Looking at the before measurements yours had sagged pretty badly so the upgrade was definitely due.

Cheers Andrew

[jasonh]

So I had a 2" Dobinsons Kit installed yesterday.

Went from original setup with 220,000 Km's with a ARB Deluxe Winch Bar on front, and nothing in the back.
FL: 703 FR: 703
RL: 707 RR: 707

To having the Dobinsons Kit:
Front:
Springs: C59-302
Shocks: GS59-221

Rear:
Springs: C59-325
Shocks: GS59-701

FL: 790 FR: 790
RL: 803 RR: 803

[prado2004]

765 front & 825 rear that is with 2" tough dogs. Thinking of getting some of AJ's strut spacers to bring the front up some more. I have steel bar, steel cable winch, dual batts, steel bashplates under and soon to be rock sliders and brush bars.

[rogjil]

Just had OME suspension fitted yesterday part nos 883 coils and 90000 struts on the front, 896 coils and 60005 shocks on the rear. No bar (next week if I am lucky and an upgrade to 884 coils) or winch or dual battery in the front. Nearly finished fitting out the back, 2nd battery, fridge, air compressor, installed custom draw setup nearly finished.

Before
FL: 745 FR: 750
RL: 750 RR:760

After
FL: 795 FR: 795
RL: 825 RR:830

[RKM08]

Finally getting my 2" lift next Wednesday, so thought I would throw in my stock measurements first.
08 Grande, still has stock suspension with nothing else fitted except an alloy bar.
Front avg. 730mm
Rear avg Med setting 770mm
Rear avg High setting 805mm
Can't wait to see how it comes out. It's only taken 2 years to get around to it.

after lift
front- 770mm
rear - 840mm

The front is a bit low (about 1") and the rear is a bit high (check how much droop that's left)

Jamie,

They have over extended the cv shafts during the install. It seems their method of install sometimes cause the CV boots to dislodge from its original position.

[jamieprado]

OK, so she went in yesterday and got the suspension fitted by Dobinsons. Got home and noticed a leaky boot, damn.

Billies : BE5A712 and 713's
Dobinsons : C59-327 (Rear) and C59-314 (Front)
Firestone Ride-Rite 4107 Coil-Rite; Air Helper Spring Kit

Measurements:
FL=814 – FR=811
RL=843 – RR=840

I had to fit the suspension before my bar and winch due to time constraints. The only extra weight I have on this Stock Prado is my 21KG dual battery. Figures are pretty high but I expect a significant drop once I fit all my gear within the next 3 weeks, ready for my High Country trip on the 31st. Even though I haven't fitted all my gear yet I would not expect leaking CV boots with the strut/spring combo I have chosen.

It's going back to Dobinsons on Thursday get checked out.

Also note, CV angles do not look excessive… maybe it was a loose clamp on the boot?