Suspension Measurements 2

[JEEPETR]

Purchased from Suzukisuper ebay
tough dog foam cell shocks and +50mm HD superking springs
before lift
front- 720mm
rear- 780mm
after lift
front- 770mm
rear - 840mm
I have Arb steel bar with 12000lb tigerz11 winch & bash plates
Just gone to second tank about 500 km since fitting

[Anth120playdo]

Thanks ####,

Do you think I'll need a diff drop gong that way (40mm+).

Curious because my ARB UVP won't allow for a diff drop, so I'd also be looking at new plates...

I haven't read about many 120's breaking CV's at least not on P.P.

Cheers,
Jamie

No diff drop required.

Diff drop is more to do with travel, not height. The more full extension travel you have on any c/v the greater the angle & risk of damage.
Hiluxes break them much more, because more travel.

[Axewell]

Chucking in my measurements.

                 [B]Brand     Model            Free Length     Spring Rate

Parts & Specs:

Front Coil:     Lovells   TFR-118EHD    345              1125
Rear Coil:      Lovells   TRR-119HD    400            321

                 [B]Brand     Model     Opened    Closed  Travel[/B]
Front Strut:    Bilstein  BE5-A712     552      427    125
Rear Shock:     Bilstein  B46-1478      592     381    211

[/B]Weighty Mods: ARB winch Bar, 12,000lb winch w/rope, dual batts, air compressor, amts bash plate, ATS steel sidesteps, steel tradesman style roof rack, rear drawers, 60l Waeco.

Measurements when fitted in 2011:

[COLOR=#333333]
[B][U]mm's:    Stock    Lifted    Diff[/U][/B]
LF    735    810    75
RF    740    815    75
LR    740    835    95
RR    745    840    95[/COLOR]

Measurements now:

[B][U]mm's:    Stock    Sept 14[/U][/B]
LF    735    790
RF    740    790    
LR    740    830    
RR    745    830    [COLOR=#333333]
(All taken from bottom of rim to bottom of guard)[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#333333]NB. Front Bilstein strut circlip is in middle position.[/COLOR]

After a couple of new tyres and rotation/balance the truck is pulling left and have had 2 places have a shot at it now.
Need to find someone in Melbourne's East that can get this thing right again.

[jamieprado]

Thanks ####,

Do you think I'll need a diff drop gong that way (40mm+).

Curious because my ARB UVP won't allow for a diff drop, so I'd also be looking at new plates...

I haven't read about many 120's breaking CV's at least not on P.P.

Cheers,
Jamie

[Anth120playdo]

Hi Hugo,

I have similar weights than you up front (ARB Steel Bar, 21kg Dual Batt, Winch (Rope), ARB UVP, ARB air, Spotties, AJ120 Sliders, Rhino Pioneer Platform rack) but i'm going for the below combo, gets installed Tuesday next week on my 120:

Billies : BE5A712 and 713's
Dobinsons : C59-327 (Rear) and C59-302 (Front)
FireStone bags in the back.

Question, what setting on the front shock did you use? probably the bottom or middle clip...

Cheers,
Jamie

I'd suggest 314 in the front. On bottom clip if you are happy with 40+mm

302 on the top cog will settle to a 40mm lift.

Also depending what your main use is, as u are putting bags in the rear, 325 will give a nicer ride unloaded.

I might be wrong, but maybe double check, as this is what I have found on customers vehicles in the past.

[jamieprado]

Hi Hugo,

I have similar weights than you up front (ARB Steel Bar, 21kg Dual Batt, Winch (Rope), ARB UVP, ARB air, Spotties, AJ120 Sliders, Rhino Pioneer Platform rack) but i'm going for the below combo, gets installed Tuesday next week on my 120:

Billies : BE5A712 and 713's
Dobinsons : C59-327 (Rear) and C59-302 (Front)
FireStone bags in the back.

Question, what setting on the front shock did you use? probably the bottom or middle clip...

Cheers,
Jamie

[bprado]

CV angles. Around 800 the CVs are pretty much the same angle as standard with the exception that the front drive shafts run uphill rather than down. More than 800 you should seriously consider a diff drop too.

I was thinking off getting the diff drop kit is that all I will need and should I get ext sway bar link

[HugoStiglitz]

Adding my Measurements.

Lots of weight up front (ARB Steel Bar, Dual Batt, Winch) on a 2008 D4D
No 3rd Row Seats but Large Recovery Bag + High Lift in the rear
I have not measured since the steel sliders but will edit this post when I do this afternoon.


810mm front
830mm rear


Part numbers are as follows

FRONT
Shock: Bilstein F4-BES-A712-M2
Spring: Dobinson C59-352

REAR
Shock: Bilstein 24-238830
Spring: Dobinson C59-325

this is with my air bags at 5psi

[BiLLz0r]

Just thought I'd add my measurements here for future reference more than anything.
GXL, V6, Steel ARB non-winch bar, 3rd row seats removed, near full fuel tanks. Everything else stock as far as weight goes.
All suspension components stock except for the rear shocks which are KYB Excel G's. I think the previous owner used it for towing a bit and hence the upgraded rear shocks.
FL: 730
FR: 725
RL: 770
RR: 760
As of 14/1/15 with 1 tank empty and 1 tank half empty (or half full).
FL: 730
FR: 725
RL: 775
RR: 770

As of 6/7/16- 1.5 tanks of fuel
FL: 722
FR: 723
RL: 770
RR: 765

[rorza]

I misread and thought of it as 'Never exceed 800mm...ever.'. Thought it was something to do with centre of gravity, I was on a totally different wavelength.

[AJ120]

Also if you go too high without an extended strut you have little down travel, which will cause handling issues and possible strut damage due to it topping out all the time.

Cheers Andrew

[rorza]

Ah gotcha on the same page now. Yeah, I've got all that in place so no dramas there. Cheers

[mjrandom]

CV angles. Around 800 the CVs are pretty much the same angle as standard with the exception that the front drive shafts run uphill rather than down. More than 800 you should seriously consider a diff drop too.

[rorza]

3" lift at the front. U want to keep it under 800 ideally.

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Excuse my ignorance, but why is keeping it under 800 ideal?

[bprado]

Yea I hop it drops when I bought them they said 50mm lift so im not sure what happened I double check my measurement