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  • Re: ATS Bilstein Suspension Setup

    Originally posted by Grandeman
    Four failures ain't just a coincidence.

    Be interesting to hear whether anyone else has experienced anything catastrophically similar, now that many have some serious miles under their belts.
    This quote has come from something deleted by the look of it, but, for the record,

    No vehicle we have fitted has had 4 failures, [of anything]though we did put one customers vehicle back to standard to be traded on thier new vehicle, and sold on the old equipment from that vehicle which had done 80-90,000km of mostly 4wding, including the Simpson, Hay river, etc, always overloaded, and the vehicle they were fitted to 2nd hand, they began to leak in the rears, and the fronts were "noisy" so they were replaced with new ones.

    If the supplier had seen 4 failures on a vehicle, they would of come straight to us to find out what may be causing it, and that didnt happen either.

    Apart from those, which were actually out of warranty, we have had one other rear leak, which was replaced under warranty on the 120.

    Any mass produced part like shocks, we always like to work on a < 1.5% warranty return rate, as a maximum, as this seems to seperate the milk from the cream, and its fair to say we are well below that with our current range, and we introduced the range becuase the manufacturer was already showing less than this return average as well. [like most of our suppliers products, warranty return rate helps us decide if we wish to test it first, before taking it on]

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    • Re: ATS Bilstein Suspension Setup

      Originally posted by assassinoffroad
      Apart from those, which were actually out of warranty, we have had one other rear leak, which was replaced under warranty on the 120.
      Hey Darren is that my leaking rear one you are mentioning here? I have not heard from you since sending in the photos of it. What do you want me to do about it?

      Cheers

      Mav
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      • Re: ATS Bilstein Suspension Setup

        Originally posted by mav
        Originally posted by assassinoffroad
        Apart from those, which were actually out of warranty, we have had one other rear leak, which was replaced under warranty on the 120.
        Hey Darren is that my leaking rear one you are mentioning here? I have not heard from you since sending in the photos of it. What do you want me to do about it?

        Cheers

        Mav
        From the email sent back,

        "at the moment it has only misted, and in the email, asked to wipe it and monitor it.

        They do mist oil occasionally when they get hot, but going by the pics it is certainly nothing to be concerned about at this stage.

        Lets look in another month."

        So let me know in a month.

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        • Re: ATS Bilstein Suspension Setup

          Originally posted by assassinoffroad
          Originally posted by mav
          Originally posted by assassinoffroad
          Apart from those, which were actually out of warranty, we have had one other rear leak, which was replaced under warranty on the 120.
          Hey Darren is that my leaking rear one you are mentioning here? I have not heard from you since sending in the photos of it. What do you want me to do about it?

          Cheers

          Mav
          From the email sent back,

          "at the moment it has only misted, and in the email, asked to wipe it and monitor it.

          They do mist oil occasionally when they get hot, but going by the pics it is certainly nothing to be concerned about at this stage.

          Lets look in another month."

          So let me know in a month.
          Sorry Darren, I did not receive that email from you, not sure where it went but didn't arrive in my inbox. Anyway I will let you know in a month, it is going in for new injectors after the Easter weekend at Jarvis in Adelaide so maybe I can get them to put it up on a hoist and I can really take a good shot of it and have them check it thoroughly.
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          • Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

            Sounds like a plan, Bilsteins are designed to lose up to 1/3 of thier oil over the life of the shock, and still operate as per the plan, because shocks have no "pressure relief " valve, the build up of heat can sometimes cause enough pressure to push past the seal.

            This is called "misting" when it lets a small amount of oil onto the body of the shock, and the dirt sticks to it.

            This doesnt cause oil to run down the shock, and drip off though, if thats happening, then there is something more going on.

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            • Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

              I seem to have gone and corrupted the tax invoice that Darren emailed me. I can't for the life of me remember if the Ridepro coils Darren sent me are the Medium or Heavy duty ones. Pretty sure they wouldn't be the HD coils as I don't have enough gear to justify them....... for now. The Bilsteins and Ridepro's are being fitted Monday (got the day off work 8) ). Looking over the coils just now I couldn't see anything stamped on them that gave it away. Only the following painted on numbers.

              Rear - ZC7325
              Front - ZC7300

              Anybody know, or am I going to have to tell Darren I corrupted his tax invoice......... :lol:
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              • Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

                Bilsteins & Ridepro's Installed.

                Before





                After





                The Bilstein / Ridepro kit before it went in



                Sorry for the Phone cam pics. Our Canon camera suffered a CCD failure a few weeks back that Canon Australia are now fixing for free..... at their leisure I might add :roll:

                Measurements (bottom rim to top of guard, Tank 1/2 full)
                Before
                Front Right 735mm
                Front Left 725mm
                Rear Right 780mm
                Rear Left 775mm

                After
                Front Right 790mm
                Front Left 790mm
                Rear Right 820mm
                Rear Left 815mm

                Damn but it feels a lot higher off the ground now. So much so that I was worried about fitting in the garage, but it fits no probs. Had me going though. Interesting how a matter of 40 -50mm can alter your perceptions so much. Just gotta get used to it now. Never thought this'd be the way I got high but ain't life funny.....

                Off for a wheel alignment.....
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                • Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

                  Awesome IP - its definitely one mod you can really notice the difference in everything!

                  And a nice Auto-Craft stubby holder as well!

                  Where in Perth did you get to do the install, if you don't mind me asking?
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                  • Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

                    looks good ironpaw, this way of getting high should last ya a few years not a few hours :lol: . cheers samo
                    had an 03 gx 120 with some gear now got a 2013 bt 50 GT auto some ARB gear.

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                    • Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

                      Looks good IP. Its nice to be on "High" :lol:

                      Do you know what circlip setting the shocks (front) are on?
                      Cheers,
                      Dustie

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                      • Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

                        I got Perth 4X4 in Balcatta to do the install, who know all about Darren's Bilstein / Ridepro kits. They charged me $380.00 to do the install. A bit rich in my opinion but that's how these things go. No way I could do it myself either. Wheel alignment at Ian Diffen cost me $59.00. Once again a bit rich in my opinion but I wanted to get it all sorted while I had the day off. "Toe" adjustment was out apparently which the blokes at Ian Diffen say always happens with lifted suspension.

                        I know that Darren said Coastal 4x4 had also installed the Bilstein / Ridepro kits in the past as well. But Jandakot is a little further away than Balcatta for me so that's why I went with Perth 4x4. All very business like, they installed the kit with hardly a word and said very little when I went to pick the Prado up. Make of that what you will. They sell Tough Dog gear there so perhaps they thought I should have bought the gear off them instead. The only other thing with Perth 4x4 is that they aren't open on Saturdays so it's got to be a weekday when you go there. I dropped the Prado there at 8:00am and it was done by 11:30.

                        Tried to look at what circlip position they've used but buggered if I can tell. Looks like it might be the lowest one as I can't see there's anymore settings below. Will climb under and have a decent look in a few days.

                        Yup, the difference is noticeable straight up. Haven't driven it a heck of a lot yet but already feels a lot less "floaty" and is noticeably firmer on the road.

                        Maybe a ladder mod next up.......... :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)
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                        • Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

                          Originally posted by IRON-PAWW
                          Maybe a ladder mod next up.......... :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)
                          Is everyone short in WA, i only thought Chippy needed the ladder!!! hehehehe
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                          • Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

                            Nice work IRON-PAWW.

                            Will be super keen to hear your thoughts in a few days time as I intend on fitting Bilsteins etc in the next two weeks.
                            2009 GXL D4D White Auto - ARB Duluxe Bar - Lightforce 240 Blitz spots - Icom IC440 CB - Bilstein shocks, Lovells 1.5" lift H/Duty coils - Polyairs - Tracklander Alloy roof cage and ladder - Maxtrax - rear work lights - PP Rear-door-table - Underfloor water tank - 275/65/17 BFG AT's - Ranox dual battery system - Rear door spacer - Safari snorkel - Steel sliders - ARB front and rear air lockers - ARB CKMTA12 onboard air compressor...

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                            • Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

                              I had to relocate my circlips to the "highest" setting when i fitted up the winch & bar.

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                              • Re: Auto-Craft Bilstein Suspension Setup

                                So what's involved with readjusting the circlips? They just kind of screw up or down to the next grooves do they? Is that easy to do? Like will I need stilsens or something to adjust them? In the nearish future I'll more than likely be looking at a winch so it's good to know I have some adjustment there to play with.

                                For anyone else in Perth wanting to try Darren McRae's kit, don't be put off by the tyranny of distance. I rang him at Autocraft and he had me sorted right from the word go. I simply paid for the kit with my long suffering Visa card and the Autocraft guys packaged it up and sent it over the Nullarbor. My first query to Darren was warranty. What if something goes wrong I said? I'll have to rip the offending part off again and send it all the way back to Geelong. No! What they'll do is organize the warranty inspection and any possible parts replacement through a Perth business. Meaning I can just take the Prado along to a business here as I would do anyway. With gear like this though, any warranty issue will be extremely unlikely. I suppose it took a little over a week to get here, which is good, considering a fortnight isn't anything unusual for stuff from the Eastern states.

                                We lads here in WA don't do things by halves. You think Chippy is small...... Oh no.... his Prado is big!. So he just looks small standing next to it. Chippy is actually 8 feet tall, drinks vodka martini's, and his 2nd car is an Aston Martin.........
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