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  • #31
    Originally posted by Crammy
    Matt/leachy/lc120man,

    What's the treadwear and traction classifications on your tyres?

    I'll add them to the list... If no one wants the list let me know and I'll give it the flick.
    I have 10,000kms on my STT's and they have not shown any signs of wear. I have had the car realigned and the wheels rebalanced at 5000kms.

    The traction classification.. afaik they are classed as a mud terrain tyre. As for my opinion of thier traction.. onroad: as good as the grandtreks in the dry and probably better in the wet once you get used to the higher profile of the tyre.

    offroad: sand excellent, i had my concerns as to their ability for flotation being an agressive tyre, but that was soon put to rest after getting onto the beach.

    dirt: fast dirt is good fun, especially if its a bit wet, they are sure footed and predictable.

    hill climbs: both loose and dry they have not dissapointed me yet, they do scrabble a bit but quickly find traction.

    mud: 8)
    2004 GXL V6 5 speed auto. Cooper STTs, 40mm Lift, Scanguage II, Flyer batterybox, GME3400 UHF, Engel 40L, Safari Snorkel, IPF Xeon Headlight upgrade, Milford Cargo Barrier.
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    • #32
      IM with you on this one Matt.. 15000 on mine and have driven them hard on all surfaces..

      rotate them every 5ooo km

      they have the reinforced side walls and i find them awsome..
      will be fitting them again when they wear.

      joey 8)
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      • #33
        Is there NO-ONE out there with Procomps?

        The ATS guys recommend them - you'd think someone on the forum would have taken them up on it??

        BTW, it's nice to be back...

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        • #34
          Welcome back G-Man. I was wondering where you had disappeared to.

          Cheers - Byrnsie

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          • #35
            Moved house and the stupid b@stards from Telstra who assured me that my internet connection would be transferred seamlessly. lied to me... what a shock :shock:

            We have been off the air for over a month :cry:

            In any event, it is nice to be back...

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Matt
              Also, with your experiance with them on trips: was it on your vehicle? because you cant just set up a car to a specification, and expect it to perform flawlessly regardless of who is driving, and how much care and notice they put into the machine they are driving on the road at the time.

              Well with MTRs this is what we do - we just drive them and
              give them hell and they just perform without me worrying much where
              or how and on what I am driving....


              Some of my posts may have come across as cranky and pointing the finger at the ATS trips.. but i do sometimes get sick of people (be it with lots of experiance or not) bagging a product that they have seen fail, regardless of any success that that product may have had in the same conditions with different drivers. I have known people that have taken BFG AT's into extreamly remote places and NEVER had a failure.. that to me has to say something.

              Well, did I bag them? I just said they are not the tyres to
              take in the outback, and I don't recommend them there ...
              Yes all tyres can fail and I had MTR with less that 1000km die on me
              as well, but some tyres are more prone to that than overs...

              Agan from experience -1 guy with Coopers STT had 3 dead tyres by the end of the trip...

              You can even take Grandtrecks to the outback and don't have a single puncture - but you'll spend all the trip worrying about tyres and where you drive rather than enjoing yourselft and surrounds...
              [color=blue][url=http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?12128-2004-120-GXL-V6-Petrol-Buildup-*Warning-Picture-Heavy!*&highlight=picture+heavy][b]My Prado Buildiup Since 2004[/b][/url][/color]
              [b]2004 120 GXL V6 4sp Auto D694 LTs and MTRs with Kevlar (best of both worlds )[/b]

              [url=http://www.fuelly.com/driver/lc120man/prado][img]http://www.fuelly.com/smallsig-metric/48063.png[/img][/url]

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              • #37
                Hey Stan,

                Do the MTR's only come in 16's?

                Or is there now a 17inch version?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Grandeman
                  Hey Stan,

                  Do the MTR's only come in 16's?

                  Or is there now a 17inch version?
                  Grandeman,

                  They are availble on both 16 and 17inch versions
                  [color=blue][url=http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?12128-2004-120-GXL-V6-Petrol-Buildup-*Warning-Picture-Heavy!*&highlight=picture+heavy][b]My Prado Buildiup Since 2004[/b][/url][/color]
                  [b]2004 120 GXL V6 4sp Auto D694 LTs and MTRs with Kevlar (best of both worlds )[/b]

                  [url=http://www.fuelly.com/driver/lc120man/prado][img]http://www.fuelly.com/smallsig-metric/48063.png[/img][/url]

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by lc120_man

                    Grandeman,

                    They are availble on both 16 and 17inch versions
                    Nice!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Grandeman
                      Is there NO-ONE out there with Procomps?

                      The ATS guys recommend them - you'd think someone on the forum would have taken them up on it??

                      BTW, it's nice to be back...

                      There are a few guys I know with Procomps Mud Terrains and the are OK.
                      The best time to get Procomps when they have buy 3 get 1 free
                      promo. They have it every year, so if you want to get them just be
                      patient
                      [color=blue][url=http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?12128-2004-120-GXL-V6-Petrol-Buildup-*Warning-Picture-Heavy!*&highlight=picture+heavy][b]My Prado Buildiup Since 2004[/b][/url][/color]
                      [b]2004 120 GXL V6 4sp Auto D694 LTs and MTRs with Kevlar (best of both worlds )[/b]

                      [url=http://www.fuelly.com/driver/lc120man/prado][img]http://www.fuelly.com/smallsig-metric/48063.png[/img][/url]

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Pradogxlv6
                        I will try and local price a 265/70x17 Goodyear MTR tomorrow morning.
                        BTW, where did we get to on the issue of fitting 70 series tyres in NSW? Is it a goer?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Matt
                          Originally posted by Crammy
                          Matt/leachy/lc120man,

                          What's the treadwear and traction classifications on your tyres?

                          I'll add them to the list... If no one wants the list let me know and I'll give it the flick.
                          I have 10,000kms on my STT's and they have not shown any signs of wear. I have had the car realigned and the wheels rebalanced at 5000kms.

                          The traction classification.. afaik they are classed as a mud terrain tyre. As for my opinion of thier traction.. onroad: as good as the grandtreks in the dry and probably better in the wet once you get used to the higher profile of the tyre.

                          offroad: sand excellent, i had my concerns as to their ability for flotation being an agressive tyre, but that was soon put to rest after getting onto the beach.

                          dirt: fast dirt is good fun, especially if its a bit wet, they are sure footed and predictable.

                          hill climbs: both loose and dry they have not dissapointed me yet, they do scrabble a bit but quickly find traction.

                          mud: 8)
                          Matt the classifications will be written on the tyre wall.. They refer to the amount of traction and also treadwear of the tyre.
                          2008 GXL M6 D4D, Silver
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Pradogxlv6
                            bugger em !!
                            Bloody oath!!! :evil:

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Pradogxlv6


                              There are a few guys I know with Procomps Mud Terrains and the are OK.
                              The best time to get Procomps when they have buy 3 get 1 free
                              promo. They have it every year, so if you want to get them just be
                              patient
                              How often do they pull this one on ? where do they advertise it Stan ???

                              Cheers,
                              Typically close to Melbourne 4wd show dates about October but differs all the time. I'll post on the forum if I find out when the next sale is on...
                              [color=blue][url=http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?12128-2004-120-GXL-V6-Petrol-Buildup-*Warning-Picture-Heavy!*&highlight=picture+heavy][b]My Prado Buildiup Since 2004[/b][/url][/color]
                              [b]2004 120 GXL V6 4sp Auto D694 LTs and MTRs with Kevlar (best of both worlds )[/b]

                              [url=http://www.fuelly.com/driver/lc120man/prado][img]http://www.fuelly.com/smallsig-metric/48063.png[/img][/url]

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by lc120_man
                                we just drive them and
                                give them hell and they just perform without me worrying much
                                all good and well if you have one of them fandangled tyre monitor systems :wink: the rest of us peons need to do it the old fashioned way.. steady steady and check how its goes. :wink:
                                2004 GXL V6 5 speed auto. Cooper STTs, 40mm Lift, Scanguage II, Flyer batterybox, GME3400 UHF, Engel 40L, Safari Snorkel, IPF Xeon Headlight upgrade, Milford Cargo Barrier.
                                [img]http://users.on.net/matthewv/4wd/prado.jpg[/img]

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