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  • #31
    Re: Fitting 285 or 33 inch tyres

    superior's initial uca was beefy using plate. only downside was that it was designed for the genuine upper ball joint. problem is, the upper ball joint also comes with the upper arm when ordered from toyota. there are aftermarket ball joints, but aftermarket never has as much travel in the ball joints as the genuine ones. so to use the original design, you would need to press out the ball joint out of the old uca, and back into the new uca. and when this balljoint flogs out, you will need to get a gen toy one, with the whole uca arm, which you already have 2 spare of.

    they have new arms in development, much along the lines of the ones for the lux by wizard. i don't like the pillow ball upper design, as it collects mud and rocks etc and flogs the socket out. if they made a rubber boot to enclose the pivot, it would prolly work better. there's a lot of mud up here in the wet.

    i've suggested that they should look into the ones from the states, i think they are the light racing ones. which you should be able to get through a 'good' pedders store. i have been liasing with the manufacturers of this uca, which have the adjustabe upper balljoint for castor and camber, to buy direct from them. aus is just so far behind the rest of the world.
    SIK-120
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    • #32
      Re: Fitting 285 or 33 inch tyres

      Thos US UCA's are a;ready available here......

      Camburg UCA's to suit the factory ball joint are available from VMN. The ball joint seat is angled so as to allowmore downtravel out of the factory ball joint without binding.

      I know of another local company in the planning stages of making both uniball and factory ball joint type UCA's.

      The ones superior had advertised to be honest look like a pile of crap someone welded up in their back shed compared to the quality ones from the USA....

      And to be honest, why would you want to subject the factory cv's to 4" of height.....with or without UCA's thats just asking for trouble unless you get aftermarket front shafts...
      no point selling a product because its says 4" instead of 3" if the rest of the drivetrain isnt built to accomadate it.

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      • #33
        Re: Fitting 285 or 33 inch tyres

        Originally posted by samo
        x4 here as well, if thats a 4 inch lift i call myself a queenslander :lol:
        I managed to find this vehicle tonight (or one thats near identical) and parked my Prado with a 45mm lift) next to it and there was a good 2 inch difference in bonnet height - to stand next to it u realize how high it is. I never managed to get a pic parked next to it as the police were just down the road watching intently after pulling over a Motorbike (probably laughing to themselves wondering if I wanted to compare penis' with the owner as well :mrgreen: ). Admittedly I have a proper bullbar so mine is sitting lower because of that but its still high. The car seems to get used a 4x4 quite a bit too judging by the battle scares.



        Here's a pic as we drove off after the police asked us WTF we were doing lol
        2014 D4D 150 Prado soccer mum mobile

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        • #34
          Re: Fitting 285 or 33 inch tyres

          Originally posted by ookami
          I managed to find this vehicle tonight (or one thats near identical) and parked my Prado with a 45mm lift) next to it and there was a good 2 inch difference in bonnet height - to stand next to it u realize how high it is. I never managed to get a pic parked next to it as the police were just down the road watching intently after pulling over a Motorbike (probably laughing to themselves wondering if I wanted to compare p3nis' with the owner as well :mrgreen: ). Admittedly I have a proper bullbar so mine is sitting lower because of that but its still high. The car seems to get used a 4x4 quite a bit too judging by the battle scares.

          Here's a pic as we drove off after the police asked us WTF we were doing lol
          Hahaha! :lol: :lol: Hey, it was worth the embarrassment. Great snap :wink: Did you tell them you were sizing up your prado p3nis?
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          • #35
            Re: Fitting 285 or 33 inch tyres

            It looks to be sitting a lot higher in your photo than in the original pictures posted, did you happen to check the tyre size to confirm it is running 285's??

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            • #36
              Re: Fitting 285 or 33 inch tyres

              Originally posted by AJ120
              It looks to be sitting a lot higher in your photo than in the original pictures posted, did you happen to check the tyre size to confirm it is running 285's??

              Cheers Andrew
              Yeah it was running 285s. There's quite a number of 120 & 150 Prados in town running 285s now - all running 8mm wheel spacers on the stock rims.
              2014 D4D 150 Prado soccer mum mobile

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              • #37
                Re: Fitting 285 or 33 inch tyres

                Looking at this latest image I would say its definiently a 4 inch lift. massive clearance on the guards. and running 285's.

                That pretty well proves it. Certainly the earlier images seemed a lot lower?

                Seems the original poster has gone to ground since the original post though? Shame would be very interesting to know more about it.

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                • #38
                  Re: Fitting 285 or 33 inch tyres

                  Originally posted by ookami
                  Originally posted by AJ120
                  It looks to be sitting a lot higher in your photo than in the original pictures posted, did you happen to check the tyre size to confirm it is running 285's??

                  Cheers Andrew
                  Yeah it was running 285s. There's quite a number of 120 & 150 Prados in town running 285s now - all running 8mm wheel spacers on the stock rims.
                  Thats interesting to know, i would like to go to 285's when its time to replace tyres if i could. I gather that wheeel spacers are illegal though. Speedy wheels make a replica prado style rim 17x7.5 with ET10 offset as opposed to ET30 which is standard on the prado, this rim is for a ford ranger but should bolt on and save the need for wheel spacers maybe? see link http://www.speedywheels.com.au/offroad.htm

                  obviously a more expensive option though.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Fitting 285 or 33 inch tyres

                    I could hook you guys up with some 17x7.5 FJ Cruiser wheels if you blokes are keen from the states....+15 offset...within the legal track width extension allowable and will clear everything without any problems with 285/70x17's.

                    let me know if anyone is interested.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Fitting 285 or 33 inch tyres

                      You have to do some minor trimming of the mud flaps as well. On full compression on full lock it may also touch on the bodymount in the front wheel arch.
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                      • #41
                        No need for 4" of lift at all

                        I've got 285/70/17 on my sagged 2" lift and it dosnt touch anywhere. +20 17x8 offset rim to clear the upper arm and your all sweet it dosnt even touch the mudflap full lock full compression without sway bars.

                        My opinion is that a 4" lift is illegal anyways , you might aswell 2" suspension and 2" body lift and you will clear a 35x12.5 , ill be fitting a body lift into mine in the next couple of months and fitting up 35's
                        2004 Manual Turbo diesel 1KZ-TE , 5" lift , 37x12.5 BF Goodrich KM2

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                        • #42
                          I'm running 285 on 2" lift and standard uac and is touching on full lock but changing uac for superior one the smaller and brand of the tyre is MUD HOG they went true high-country, Toolangi and no
                          problem highly recommend them
                          Prado 2008 d4d Auto, Redarc dual battery, 285/70/17 mad hogs, ironman bull bar, Mako TDS 12,000Lb Winch with synthetic rope, MAXTRAX on TraxRax, AJ120 Rock sliders , ironman bashplate, Front and rear ARB air locker,3'LEGENDEX EXHAUST SYSTEM

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                          • #43
                            I have 285/70R17 BFG Km2s on 17x8 pos 10 offset rims with 4" lift and I rub the chassis and UCA (light racing) only at full lock when under full compression (sway bar out) and also in the rear full compression also rub the back of the flares but I've since fixed that with some trimming. I'm going to zero offset rims next to fix the scrubbing...
                            [b]2006 GXL Prado 1GR-FE [/b]- ARB Lockers & Bar, Tigerz11 Winch, snorkle, Custom Bash Gaurd & Steps, AJ4x4 Rear Bar, Spotties, UHF, Dual batt, 33" KM2s, Custom drawers, Ext Icon Coilovers, 4" SRC Shockies, Dobinson 4" Springs, Diff drop, Light Racing UCA's, Ext SS brake lines, Driveshaft spacer, Superior trailing arms, Nitro 4.56 diff gears, DBA Slotted brakes, TRD Supercharger, Bullet Ultimate Exhaust, XEDE Dual map Processor

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Ghostriderhusky View Post
                              No need for 4" of lift at all

                              I've got 285/70/17 on my sagged 2" lift and it dosnt touch anywhere. +20 17x8 offset rim to clear the upper arm and your all sweet it dosnt even touch the mudflap full lock full compression without sway bars.

                              My opinion is that a 4" lift is illegal anyways , you might aswell 2" suspension and 2" body lift and you will clear a 35x12.5 , ill be fitting a body lift into mine in the next couple of months and fitting up 35's
                              How'd you go? You'd fit 35's with a 6" lift and a shit loads of trimming/removal of flares.... body lifts are illegal if you have airbags. problem you will have with 35's (besides scrubbing) is if you plan to wheel hard off road you will break your CV's and diff in no time
                              [b]2006 GXL Prado 1GR-FE [/b]- ARB Lockers & Bar, Tigerz11 Winch, snorkle, Custom Bash Gaurd & Steps, AJ4x4 Rear Bar, Spotties, UHF, Dual batt, 33" KM2s, Custom drawers, Ext Icon Coilovers, 4" SRC Shockies, Dobinson 4" Springs, Diff drop, Light Racing UCA's, Ext SS brake lines, Driveshaft spacer, Superior trailing arms, Nitro 4.56 diff gears, DBA Slotted brakes, TRD Supercharger, Bullet Ultimate Exhaust, XEDE Dual map Processor

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                              • #45
                                For those running 285's, how badly does it affect the economy when using your prado around town and on highway?

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