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  • #16
    Originally posted by awwricecracker View Post
    I have dual battery and a dc/dc charging system for the second battery. However, I would recommend the setup I have used for winching.
    I have duplicated the winch cables and have run them directly from the winch to BOTH batteries using a switch between each battery and the winch. When both switches are ON, the batteries are connected together with maximum current available to the winch. With the car running just above idle, I can winch for a solid 2 minutes under full load until the batteries need time to recover (2 optimas).

    Another advantage of having this system, it is essentially an override to the dual battery setup and allows jump starting the main battery if I ever have a problem with it.

    Winches use a lot of power, some more than others, you want as much available to it as possible.
    awwricecracker,

    What switch did you use, can it handle the winch current?

    Leigh
    HKB Electronics, manufacturer of the Alternator Voltage Booster, Silver 2008 D4D,Lifted,Underbody protection, Alternator Voltage Booster, Tiger Z winch, Lightforce DL, Air Horns, Tanami Drawers, Drop down fridge slide, Outback cargo barriers, Rotronics dual Battery system, Polaris GPS, HF/UHF/VHF, Radio speaker combiner, Long ranger water tank, Diff breathers, Inverter, Snorkel and others

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    • #17
      G'day Leigh,

      These are the switches I use (1 at each battery to isolate them from the winch)

      They seem to handle the current without issue.

      http://www.altronics.com.au/index.as...=item&id=S2695

      cheers,
      Josh
      Originally posted by LeighW View Post
      awwricecracker,

      What switch did you use, can it handle the winch current?

      Leigh

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      • #18
        I'm sorry I don't agree with the damage the alernator theory . An alt is an AC generator and as such is impedance protected , that's why you don't need any current limit protection only voltage regulation .
        Cheers Ross

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        • #19
          Originally posted by vk2ss55 View Post
          I'm sorry I don't agree with the damage the alernator theory . An alt is an AC generator and as such is impedance protected , that's why you don't need any current limit protection only voltage regulation .
          Cheers Ross
          Sorry Ross,

          That's rubbish, you can burn out any generator if you overload it, that's why they have
          overload protection built in to gensets. This would be same as saying an ac motor or a transformer has internal impedance so you can't burn it out by overloading it!

          An alternator is no different, a high quality regulator may have overload protection built
          in, another way is to limit the excitation, to produce it's output the rotor (an electromagnet) needs to be supplied current, by careful design one could arrange it so that once the output voltage of the alterrnator is pulled below a certain voltage then their wouldn't be enough voltage to drive the rotor magnet and the ouput of the alternator would reduce, this may apply to most alternators in use though these days but as to how effective it is?

          The problems is the alternators are built to a price, running any item at 100% or above is asking for trouble.

          Interestingly no car manufacturer will warranty an alternator that has failed due to obvious overloading.

          As I wrote above, a simple search of the net will return many instances of alternators being burnt out during winching operations, simple fact.

          Leigh
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          Last edited by LeighW; 28-11-2013, 11:59 AM.
          HKB Electronics, manufacturer of the Alternator Voltage Booster, Silver 2008 D4D,Lifted,Underbody protection, Alternator Voltage Booster, Tiger Z winch, Lightforce DL, Air Horns, Tanami Drawers, Drop down fridge slide, Outback cargo barriers, Rotronics dual Battery system, Polaris GPS, HF/UHF/VHF, Radio speaker combiner, Long ranger water tank, Diff breathers, Inverter, Snorkel and others

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          • #20
            Originally posted by AJ120 View Post
            Mine is hooked to the crank battery, my second battery is in the cargo bay so the cable run would be too long to got there. So far no issues, but more to the point, I have never heard of anyone stuffing the alternator or the ECU from a winch.

            Cheers Andrew
            Have to agree with andrew. My 12,000 pound winch is off my main battery. Ive winched for pretty long periods in one hit, always left the engine running and have never had a drama.

            Not saying that the stuffing alternator or ecu isn't true, but i haven't experience issues with doing it.
            2012 4dr JK wrangler, 3.5" AEV lift, AEV mags, 35" muddies, front/rear arb bars, tjm sliders, pioneer platform and some other goodies

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