Purchased a pair of Hella Rallye 4000 lights and a Hella wiring harness as I got a really great deal on the lights. My local auto store was closing down and lost of items were close to half price. Happy with my purchase I got home and started the installation the next day. I had to cut the harness as suggested if headlight plugs were different, no problem. Mounted the lights, put on the 20A glass bulb fuse link, heat shrinked all the connectors and turned it on. The spread beam worked but not the spot beam. Hmmm, lets see if the switch works, pop, blew a fuse. Bugger. Right check the wiring again, hmmm seems I stuffed up the wires to the switch and changed mixed it up with the spot beam. No worries, swap the wires around (with the Hella wiring harness, there are 4 paired wires so a power and ground wires in black tubing all looking the same so I managed to stuff it up). Now lights work. Hooray, wait for dark and go for a drive to adjust. Found a nice stretch of unlit road about 2 mins from home, with the lights on a mate a I started adjusting. Did the spread beam first no worries and then did the spot beam. I noticed it was arcing when we adjusted it, sparks were coming out around the bottom near the bull bar. Hmmm, checked the wires at the back, none bare so we thought that was strange. Got back in the Prado and turned them off as car coming and then back on and away we went home. Wasn't really impressed as they didn't appear to do much. Got home and decided to adjust again, turned the high beam on and nothing. Crap what's up now...blown fuse, fudge, only have 15A left. Did a bit of looking on the next for any problems and there was a post on another forum that reckon the bloke had a short in the wires in the back of his light. Ok, time to call it a night and attack again tomorrow. Make this story a little bit shorter, I found out that there was a short in the light as the mount was getting power, causing the fuse to blow. Traced this back to poor light design. Two screws either side of bottom to adjust lights. These screwed into a plate which gets power due to light design. The screws are not insulated and any adjustment away from the factor setting, due to only a 1mm gap if that around the screw will cause the mounting bracket to get power which is transferred down to the bolt that attached to the bull bar (took an hour or two to work this out). No worries I ring the store telling them the light is faulty. Sorry mate, if you didn't get it installed by an electrician no warranty. You have to be kidding me the light is stuffed and you blame me....Crap...aha I know a sparky, told him the dealings, wrote me up a letter and back to the store I went. Got myself a new spot beam. Now I decided to try the light before connecting every thing up. Held it in my hand, turned the system on and it worked hooray. Put it on the bull bar, it worked hooray, mounted it and then adjust it, bang went the new fuse 20A mini fuse (new fused link). Stuff it, back inside and tackle tomorrow. Day 3 now of simple installation and no I'm not an electrician but do pride myself on know a little about a lot, and I had to rebuild a wiring harness for my motor bike, another story. So now I have the same problem with a brand new light, talk about a faulty batch. I noticed these lights have some coating on them that doesn't conduct electricity, I reckon they missed a few spots. The only way I could think of to solve the problem apart from binning the lights was to put some heat shrink over the screws where they touch the casing and mounting bracket. Did this and it worked, problem solved, lights adjusted and no more blown fuses. I was quite happy that I found the problem as was able to solve it. I'm going to write to Hella Australia and tell them about their faulty lights, maybe I'll get a keyring out of it (on second thoughts, is light actually faulty or is this how they are supposed to be?). Anyway, thought I'd just share me experience with you all, maybe some of you out there would have found the problem a bit earlier. This really did drive me mad, as brand new lights and the appropriate wiring harness when connected correctly should work!
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Re: Hella Rallye 4000 instalation nightmare
Hi bobcat67,
Good that you solved the problem though I would be a bit wary of your heat
shrink solution. If the screw is rubbing on the frame, road vibration might cause
it to wear through and you might suddenly loose your lights at speed.
Cheers
LeighWHKB Electronics, manufacturer of the Alternator Voltage Booster, Silver 2008 D4D,Lifted,Underbody protection, Alternator Voltage Booster, Tiger Z winch, Lightforce DL, Air Horns, Tanami Drawers, Drop down fridge slide, Outback cargo barriers, Rotronics dual Battery system, Polaris GPS, HF/UHF/VHF, Radio speaker combiner, Long ranger water tank, Diff breathers, Inverter, Snorkel and others
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Just check the wiring inside is the same for both lights as when I put mine on years ago the lights had been wired up incorrectally inside.
This keep blowing fuses until I discovered what was going on.
Chuck[color=red]GXL D4D AUTO Option pack more to follow & Camprite TL8s[/color] [url=http://www.fuelly.com/driver/Chuck1/prado][img]http://www.fuelly.com/smallsig-metric/46023.png[/img][/url]
Diabolus fecit, ut id facerem!
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Re: Hella Rallye 4000 instalation nightmare
Originally posted by ChuckJust check the wiring inside is the same for both lights as when I put mine on years ago the lights had been wired up incorrectally inside.
This keep blowing fuses until I discovered what was going on.
Chuck
If anyone has installed the HID lights that ABR Sidewinder has for sale, I'm interested in how they go. At the moment can't afford much else. Also purchased a dual battery system 1/2 price. Sometimes you just have to work within a budget and try and avoid the really cheap nasty stuff if you can. Will let you know how the rest goes. Finally got pictures to work so will show progress of my rig build up in the appropriate place. Cheers!
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Originally posted by Team PiggyIt almost sounds like the ground (negative ) has been swapped for the positive? Thus making the case live..[color=red]GXL D4D AUTO Option pack more to follow & Camprite TL8s[/color] [url=http://www.fuelly.com/driver/Chuck1/prado][img]http://www.fuelly.com/smallsig-metric/46023.png[/img][/url]
Diabolus fecit, ut id facerem!
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If anyone has installed the HID lights that ABR Sidewinder has for sale, I'm interested in how they go. At the moment can't afford much else. Also purchased a dual battery system 1/2 price. Sometimes you just have to work within a budget and try and avoid the really cheap nasty stuff if you can. Will let you know how the rest goes. Finally got pictures to work so will show progress of my rig build up in the appropriate place. Cheers![/quote]
Sorry, I havn't installed ABR sidewinder lights although I believe they are good, another option is to fit a HID kit to your Rallye 4000 which are quite common now and getting cheaper, kits available from around $100 to $400 which you can easily fit yourself to the Rallye 4000 you already have. Would also do away with the wiring to the lights you have on now as you only have to feed pos and neg to the HID ballast from your spotlight wiring kit. I have fitted a few kits purchased from newpro-tech.com.au to family and friends vehicles with Rallye 4000 as the kit they supply uses the original wiring connector to run the bulb wiring through, makes it neat and a better seal. Just another option if the price of another set of lights is going to stretch the budget and you want HID's.
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Hi People, I have had only Hella 4000 on both of my 4x4's and have never had a problem .I use 2 pencils and have found that to be the best especially for the Stuart Hwy .It seems it's not always so with some experiences of people but I believe if you can get over the hassle you won't regret the result . I like the strength of the metal casting and the easy way to adjust them Cheers Foxy
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