Is the 150 showing any signs of cracked inner guards

[sleeky5 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sleeky5]

Thanks Rob. I certainly hope it all works well for you. If so I will look at doing something similar. I haven't really looked too much under the bonnet of a 150 yet so it is difficult to picture how it all hangs together but I am sure your setup must help stabilize the whole thing somewhat.

Regards
Neil

[hulbyw Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close hulbyw]

As I understand it, Toyota make the battery mount that we use for an auxillary battery to house a standard wet cell battery , same as the starter battery. These wet cells are far lighter than the average AGM auxillary battery that many of us bolt in there. This is the reason Piranha recommend a maximum weight for even their trays which are braced to the front of the car. I think they recommend a max of around 22kg but not sure. It is for this reason that I have installed a small Optima that only weighs 19kg. Trade off is lower AH however you can get much higher AH with a wet cell, it just takes longer to charge
Cheers.........Wayne

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As I understand it, Toyota make the battery mount that we use for an auxillary battery to house a standard wet cell battery , same as the starter battery. These wet cells are far lighter than the average AGM auxillary battery that many of us bolt in there. This is the reason Piranha recommend a maximum weight for even their trays which are braced to the front of the car. I think they recommend a max of around 22kg but not sure. It is for this reason that I have installed a small Optima that only weighs 19kg. Trade off is lower AH however you can get much higher AH with a wet cell, it just takes longer to charge
Cheers.........Wayne

Wayne... That's the reason I'm also going for one of the Optima Batteries... much faster charging time (around 1>2hrs or so depending conditions). I was looking at one of the yellow tops of similar weight....D34 I think from memory @ 19.5kgs.
Still to do more research though

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I have had the crack in my guard repaired by a local repairer. Toyota's quote was between $800 - $1200 but I ended up getting it welded and braced for less than 10% of that. Mind you I had removed the second battery and tray to give them easy access.

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Pics Of the repair Paul?

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Rob M, yes mine is a D34. Know what you mean about the research as there are so many varying opinions about batteries on PP and many other forums. I was more interested in keeping weight off the inner guard than AH, as I generally tow a camper that has its own 100AH AGM when we get away

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Rob M, yes mine is a D34. Know what you mean about the research as there are so many varying opinions about batteries on PP and many other forums. I was more interested in keeping weight off the inner guard than AH, as I generally tow a camper that has its own 100AH AGM when we get away

Got my battery out from under the bonnet and put it in a battery box in the back......so far so good. With all the 150's out there I think it is an isolated problem not the norm.

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I tend to agree O7 but I have to say I was surprised when I saw the crack ob Brains car, the set up seemed spot on, not too stiff or heavy.

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You might be right.... but with 3 kids, room is at a premium. I'm going to try the battery under the bonnet again. I've done a few mods there and will use a lighter battery and will see how we go..... If it cracks again, then it's back to the drawing board.....

I actually like the battery box installed in the rear. You do need to give that current a bit of a boost. The Ctek 250 Dual, Redarc 1220 and the Redarc 1225 if you like the solar panels.
Jamie has got the best battery boxes already made up. $165.00 each with all the plugs and fuses. JTS. I wouldn't say that unless they are. Outback has one of these in his vehicle. The good advantage of these boxes is they are portable and you can take them out. One of my pet hates is seeing the ARB set up with both batteries being installed on one guard. That's in the 120 models.
Any sniff of the guard cracking thing, brings up images of Gordon's 120 photos. My 2005 120 had the guard cracking thing, but not like Gordon's vehicle.
Battery boxes in the rear I reckon fellas, especially if you are going to do corrugated tracks in the outback. Best to play it safe.
The 95s seem to handle the dual battery set up in the front. Shorter guards and thinker steel panels or something.
Just my thoughts on the subject.
The Roo.

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Lots of interesting points of view in this thread, some I agree with, some I don't, but of everything written in this thread this stands out to me like the dogs proverbials!



With those sorts of pressures on some of the roads you have mentioned, my first thought is WOW, lucky you got away with only cracked inner gaurds!

Like most things that go wrong it is probably a combination of a number of things that have contributed to the problem, but those pressures, especially the off road pressures to me would be one of the major contributing factors.

I continue to evolve my thinking on tyre pressures, and there are many variables, but on a reasonable gravel road I would look at mid 20's, for bad roads low 20's, for horendous roads such as when I went into Mitchell falls, back into the teens and adjust speed accordingly. I have never found handling to be an issue with lower pressures assuming you adjust the speed to suit.

Cheers Andrew

This post is absolutely spot on, especially about Mitchell falls... That is the worst "road" I've ever been on

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Pics Of the repair Paul?

I'll get it up tomorrow, keep meaning to take the photo.

Also to keep an updated list of this cracking in the 150's let's start a list stating the side the crack appeared and klms and the manufactured date if vehicle and engine

150 Cracked Inner Guards

Member: Brains
DOM: 12/2009
Engine: D4D
Model: GXL
Crack Location: Drivers Side
Crack appeared @: 75,000km
Toyota Response: Toyota Denied Claim
Outcome: Repaired by Panel Beater at my cost (Ran out of time to follow through with Toyota claim.)
Battery: Supercharge Allrounder MRV50 - 23.3kg

If you have experienced cracking just copy my details and add yours below to your post and then the next person can copy the list and continue to add to the list. That way we may see a trend towards build date or engine etc.

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I'll get it up tomorrow, keep meaning to take the photo.

Also to keep an updated list of this cracking in the 150's let's start a list stating the side the crack appeared and klms and the manufactured date if vehicle and engine

150 Cracked Inner Guards

Member: Brains
DOM: 12/2009
Engine: D4D
Model: GXL
Crack Location: Drivers Side
Crack appeared @: 75,000km
Toyota Response: Toyota Denied Claim
Outcome: Repaired by Panel Beater at my cost (Ran out of time to follow through with Toyota claim.)


If you have experienced cracking just copy my details and add yours below to your post and then the next person can copy the list and continue to add to the list. That way we may see a trend towards build date or engine etc.

in that I'd like to see if dual batteries were installed and the size/weight of the battery included.

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150 Cracked Inner Guards

Member: Rob_macca67
DOM: 10/2010
Engine: D4D
Model: GXL
Crack Location: Drivers Side
Crack appeared @: Noticed at 48,000km, not sure when it happened
Toyota Response: Toyota came to the Party but not sure if Toyota Aust or Dealership coughed up the $$
Outcome: Repaired by Toyota Panel Beater at Toyota's cost & Reinforced at the same time (extra plating)
Battery Size: Deep Cycle SuperCharge Allrounder (25.38kgs)

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Brains,
Can you start a new thread for the 150 Cracked Inner Guard List so that it won't be lost in this thread?

Rob,
I'll move your post when the new thread is up.

Thanks guys.

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thankyou....

Brains,
Can you start a new thread for the 150 Cracked Inner Guard List so that it won't be lost in this thread?

Rob,
I'll move your post when the new thread is up.

Thanks guys.