Not that i wish this to happen to you but for anyone that had anything fitted pre delivery by Toyota, you would think that Toyota would be backed into a corner and have to fix any issues since they sold you the car with the mods on it
Yeah, when I had the bubbling paint on the inserts for the bullbar, I went to Toyota & they looked into it before saying that as TJM fitted it that TJM had to fix it.
Toyota rang TJM & set it all up for me, so when I went to TJM they knew all about the problem. So yes, any problems I go straight to Toyota.
I have the last of the 120 Series Prado being 2009 model. I have a deluxe ARB bull bar, Mako winch and a D27F optima aux battery, 275/65/17 tyres and raised 2in. I have been on rough roads, high speeds etc etc and I have no visible cracks in the guards. I run my tyres at 40 psi on sealed roads and 30 psi on gravel. So touch wood...
I was having a good chat to someone about the cracks yesterday and they made a interesting comment that toyota sheet metal was one of the thicker ones around and he knows this from the fitting snorkels. Normally cracks can be caused by other things moving around ie the battery causing undue stress. Some food for thought.
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I wonder if the thickness of the sheet metal is the same on the body as well as the inner guard and wheel arch? The problem with the inner guard is that it is pressed and where this happens becomes a stress concentrator. Also, this area is where the material thins to form the shape. Coupled that with micro-scopic cracks in the material at that point and you have the alignment of the planets ....
I think these r isolated incidents based on set up and the type of travel undertaken, I don't think any car is perfect and given certain types of travel/ treatment any car will have it's faults, Prado's just happen to be inner guards which in reality don't seem to be that expensive to fix.
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All the metal on the front of the car is press formed.
I have had a fair bit of experience with metal forming. In theory every sheet turns out the same when you press it. In practice there may be minor variations due to differences in material structures, press lubrication, etc. So not every pressing is identical, this is okay until you introduce high loads or a stress raiser such as a sharp corner or hole.
This is why I suggested measuring the thickness of the cracked metal and looking for stress raisers in an earlier post.
Bottom line if you have some slightly weaker metal and then add all the extra weight on the front you may get cracks.
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2010 Silver GXL Prado 150, D4D Auto, with a few non standard bits
I think these r isolated incidents based on set up and the type of travel undertaken, I don't think any car is perfect and given certain types of travel/ treatment any car will have it's faults, Prado's just happen to be inner guards which in reality don't seem to be that expensive to fix.
I agree Hutch......I think It will be an isolated issue with the 150's judging on what I have heard from Toyota and others. I have just done 6500 k's on rough corrugations, rocky steep tracks, sand hills, water crossings. No cracks so far. I am going to get a quote from a panel beater on getting some guard reinforcing plates made like a French company did for the 120. Just for some insurance. Maybe Roo could post the photo's of the one for the 120. Did I read that one member paid $800 for the repair on his? I think prevention is better than cure hey?
I agree Hutch......I think It will be an isolated issue with the 150's judging on what I have heard from Toyota and others. I have just done 6500 k's on rough corrugations, rocky steep tracks, sand hills, water crossings. No cracks so far. I am going to get a quote from a panel beater on getting some guard reinforcing plates made like a French company did for the 120. Just for some insurance. Maybe Roo could post the photo's of the one for the 120. Did I read that one member paid $800 for the repair on his? I think prevention is better than cure hey?
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