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    Dobbo
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  • Dobbo
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    Scott,

    Those part numbers will give you everything to do BOTH sides.
    I thought I was only ordering a patch kit for the LHS but ended up with the apron and bolts nuts etc for the RHS if ever it cracks.

    Dobbo

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  • Scott13april
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  • Scott13april
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    2010 vX

    Hi all,

    Just purchased a 2010 VX and although I checked for cracks, knowing the issue and I missed it!!! It help to have the bonnet open when checking as I looked yesterday and spotted a crack on passenger side. I'd like to order the parts but just want to double check they are correct for my car.

    The crack is on the inside of wheel arch, and visible under main fuse box inside engine bay, only on passenger side.

    1) Have you guys put the brace on both sides of car, and do you need to brace internal and external, or can you just do outside?
    2) These are the parts listed in other threads, and they look to be the inner and outer patch for Front Right (drivers side??).
    3) Can anyone provide the part numbers for Passenger side patch kits?
    4) Does anyone have a link to the parts diagram?
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    5373160100 Patch Fr fender 1
    5373260060 Fr fender apron 1
    9017606042 Nut cap 17
    9017606042 Nut cap 17
    9018906065 Grommet 8
    91671A0612 Bolt flange 10
    91671A0612 Bolt flange 22
    9018906065 Grommet 2

    Member: Scott13april
    DOM: 01/2010
    Engine: D4D
    Model: VX
    Crack Location: Passenger Side
    Crack appeared @: ? current mileage is $136K
    Toyota Response: not contacted
    Outcome:
    Battery & Weight: N70ZZL (crank) 24kg
    Battery Tray: ABR (drivers side with Optima 55ah
    Tray Modifications:
    Vehicle Modifications: OME 50 lift & battery, ARB Bullbar, warn winch, arb compressor,
    4WD Trips: apparently Flinders, Coffin bay, + more (previous owner)

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  • stevesonly
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    Member: Stevesonly
    DOM: 05/2012
    Engine: D4D
    Model: GXL
    Crack Location: both sides
    Crack appeared @: 95,000km
    Toyota Response: Haven't tried
    Battery Tray: ARB optima batteries in both sides
    Vehicle Modifications: ARB bar 2" lift OME Suspension
    4WD Trips: Gibb river , cape Leveque , bungle bungles , and many more tracks of mud rock and gravel through out the south west of WA

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  • electron
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  • electron
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    I have made a list of vehicles that have cracked inner guards

    DOM ENG MODEL CRACK KMS AUX BAT BULL BAR SUSPENSION
    .12/09 D4D GXL driver 75,000 yes TJM yes
    .10/10 D4D GXL driver 48,000 yes ARB yes
    .5/10 D4D GX pass 78,000 yes ARB
    .12/09 D4D VX both 60,000 yes ARB yes
    .11/10 GXL pass 58,000 yes no no
    .3/11 GX pass 80,000 yes no no
    ./11 D4D GLX both 55,000 yes yes
    ./10 D4D GX pass 151,000 yes ARB yes
    .12/12 D4D GXL pass 56,000 yes ARB no
    .11/11 D4D GXL pass 70,000 yes TJM yes
    ./10 D4D GXL driver yes TJM yes
    .11/10 D4D GXL pass 75,000 ARB
    ,12/09 D4D GX both 150,000 yes ARB yes

    from the list you will see that:
    All are diesels
    Mainly GX and GLX
    More cracks on passenger side than driver side
    Most cracked in the 50 to 100k mark
    Only 2 did not have bull bars, the same 2 also did not have suspension upgrades
    Only 3 did not have suspension upgrades
    More ARB bars than TJM bars
    Blank spaces no info supplied

    My observations are that the crack does not start at an edge, it starts in the middle of the panel. The panel is flexed and metal fatigue starts in the middle of the panel and then extends down to the edge of the inner guard and also upwards.

    There are couple of pics from other posters on PP showing the metal fatigue creasing the guard and then the crack forming.

    Ron
    electron
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    Last edited by electron; 04-04-2016, 03:21 PM. Reason: The chart looked good on posting but changed formating when posted

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  • krypto
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  • krypto
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    I had both guards done. Patch is fitted underneath the guard, after cleaning the guard, and bolted in to place. The patch run about 25cm either side of the crack and the crack is then welded. My patch plates are almost impossible to spot unless you know what you are looking for as they have been re-coated with the protective coating.

    Toyota have kept this pretty quiet as the patch kit is an admission of a problem which could be used against them.

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  • Bushbasher
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  • Bushbasher
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    If it's like the 120 patches then there is one curved patch that goes under the inner fender above the coil. It ties in and re-enforces the edge of the inner fender where it typically cracks. The second patch is a long angled piece that goes towards the cabin end of the inner fender frame towards the top edge. This piece re-enforces the top and side of the inner fender and prevents it drooping.

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  • electron
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  • electron
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    Now been to Toyota, first response looking into it, mine is first to be seen at that dealer.

    I got the impression from info on this forum that the patch kit was a plate fitted either side of the inner guard and bolted together through the guard.

    So could some one who has had it fitted enlighten me as to what the patch really is and where is it fitted.

    Thanks
    Ron
    electron
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    Last edited by electron; 09-03-2016, 07:06 PM.

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  • electron
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  • electron
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    Part numbers are here
    http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...l=1#post493964

    These are for the right hand side only.

    What about left hand side part nos?
    Electron

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  • electron
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  • electron
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    DOM: 12/2009
    Engine: D4D
    Model: GX
    Crack Location: Both sides
    Crack appeared @: 150,000 km
    Toyota Response: will look into it and will let me know
    Outcome:
    Battery & Weight: main N70Z and aux 55amp optima
    Battery Tray: existing Toyota
    Tray Modifications: none existing Toyota
    Vehicle Modifications: 50mm lift, ARB bar
    4WD Trips: many off road and outback
    Attached Files
    electron
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    Last edited by electron; 10-03-2016, 09:17 AM.

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  • Dobbo
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  • Dobbo
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    Just a heads up. I have been trying to buy the patch (5373160100) from Amayama for several months. it always seems to be out of stock and no ETA is given, other than to suggest to try again in another month.
    I have managed to get all the other parts from them, just not the main part!
    FYI Amayama want $76.00AUD for this part, Toyota Australia $149.00.

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  • leethal1
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  • leethal1
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    Originally posted by amts View Post
    I still can not locate a part number for the FL guard. one is the patch and the other one the apron, however I have had the L/H apron tig welded and braced the battery top, no more cracks at all.
    leethal1
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    Last edited by leethal1; 02-03-2016, 12:08 AM. Reason: more info

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  • Guest
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  • Guest
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    Part numbers are here
    http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...l=1#post493964

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  • brogers
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  • brogers
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    Originally posted by Clancy View Post
    Thanks for the replies krypto and brogers. Can you post a photo of the brace please. No point in me re-inventing the wheel. The last time I tried it ended up square with the axle in one corner!
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    I just googled this image, just as an example, so you get the idea, and I know it shows a battery on the driver's side, but you can see the metal brace, linking the battery hold down post at one end, and bolting to an existing hole in the upper, front, engine bay cross member at the other end...its all about bracing the battery to stop a rocking motion as you drive over rough country.

    I guess you could make something up yourself, or there are some propriety battery trays that have this brace.

    Krypto is correct in saying that there is a part from toyota to reinforce the guard. Simply welding the crack even with a small patch didn't work for me, it just cracked again adjacent to the patch. I would be inclined to ensure the battery is well braced, with a connection to the front upper engine bay cross member, (like in the image) ..and also install the guard overlay patch.
    Its a shame, seems to be a weak point in the Prado, and I understand that in the new model this has been reinforced....I hope so.
    brogers
    Advanced Member
    Last edited by brogers; 02-03-2016, 07:41 AM.

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  • krypto
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  • krypto
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    Originally posted by Clancy View Post
    Thanks for the replies krypto and brogers. Can you post a photo of the brace please. No point in me re-inventing the wheel. The last time I tried it ended up square with the axle in one corner!
    Hi Clancy, Toyota fitted the patch kit to fix mine as it was still under warranty. I think the part number is somewhere in this thread. It was fitted from underneath the guard and matches the profile of the guard so it is impossible to see as it was re coated with the black sound deadening.

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  • Clancy
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    Thanks for the replies krypto and brogers. Can you post a photo of the brace please. No point in me re-inventing the wheel. The last time I tried it ended up square with the axle in one corner!

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