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  • 150 Cracked Inner Guard List

    Thought we should start keeping a list of the members that have experienced Cracking to the inner guard.

    If you copy, paste and fill out the details listed below in your own post that way we can start to collect some information as to whether the Cracked Guard issue is limited to certain models, engine, battery tray, batteries etc.

    Member:
    DOM: MM/YYYY
    Engine: D4D/V6
    Model: GX/GXL/VX/Kakadu
    Crack Location: Passenger Side/Drivers Side
    Crack appeared @: 75,000km
    Toyota Response:
    Outcome:
    Battery & Weight:
    Battery Tray:
    Tray Modifications:
    Vehicle Modifications:
    4WD Trips:



    Mod edit:
    For ease of finding, the part numbers for the 150 the patch kit can be found here
    http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...l=1#post493964
    Last edited by amts; 08-03-2016, 05:07 PM.
    [SIZE=2]Black 2009 150 Series D4D GXL Prado, [B]TG150[/B] Transfer Case & Actuator Guard, TJM T13 bar, TJM 9.5lb Winch, Airtec Snorkel, TJM steel sidesteps and sidebars, TJM Underbody Protection, TJM XGS Gold Suspension, Tinted, ARB Fridge Freezer, Couplertec System, Foxwing Awning, 80AH Dual battery, 8" indash GPS, Wet Seat seatcovers, GME TX3540, TX3110 & TX680, [B][COLOR=#ff6633]Maxtrax[/COLOR][/B], Kaymar Dual Wheel Carrier, Breathers, Federal MT's.[/SIZE]

  • #2
    Member: Brains
    DOM: 12/2009
    Engine: D4D
    Model: GXL
    Crack Location: Drivers Side
    Crack appeared @: Noticed at 75,000km about 2.5 years
    Toyota Response: Toyota Denied Claim
    Outcome: Repaired by Panel Beater at my cost (Ran out of time to follow through with Toyota claim.) Crack was welded and then a bolt on reinforcement plate added.
    Battery & Weight: Supercharge Allrounder MRV50 - 23.3kg
    Battery Tray ARB Battery Tray
    Tray Modifications No Modifications to tray but will be fabricating a brace similar to TJM/Piranha Tray
    Vehicle Modifications: TJM Bullbar, TJM steel side steps and side bars, TJM 9500lb winch, Dual Battery in ARB Tray, ironman Foam Cell Suspension (Now TJM XGS Gold)
    4WD Trips: 2 x Bribie, 3 x Double Island/Cooloola , 2 x Fraser Island, 2 x Moreton Island, 3 x Glasshouse Mountains, 2 x Ormeau, 2 x Five Rocks (Byfield), 2 x Kinkuna, Janowen Hills.
    Essentially a few week long trips to Fraser Island, some weekends on Moreton and the rest just day trips. No real corrugations. Vehicle spends most time on the bitumen.

    Photo of the crack



    Repair



    Last edited by Brains; 05-05-2013, 07:50 AM.
    [SIZE=2]Black 2009 150 Series D4D GXL Prado, [B]TG150[/B] Transfer Case & Actuator Guard, TJM T13 bar, TJM 9.5lb Winch, Airtec Snorkel, TJM steel sidesteps and sidebars, TJM Underbody Protection, TJM XGS Gold Suspension, Tinted, ARB Fridge Freezer, Couplertec System, Foxwing Awning, 80AH Dual battery, 8" indash GPS, Wet Seat seatcovers, GME TX3540, TX3110 & TX680, [B][COLOR=#ff6633]Maxtrax[/COLOR][/B], Kaymar Dual Wheel Carrier, Breathers, Federal MT's.[/SIZE]

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    • #3
      150 Cracked Inner Guards

      Member:
      Rob_macca67
      DOM:
      10/2010
      Engine:
      D4D
      Model:
      GXL
      Crack Location:
      Drivers Side
      Crack appeared @:
      Noticed after our Desert Trip in 2012 at 48,000km, not sure when it happened though
      Toyota Response:
      Toyota came to the Party but not sure if Toyota Aust or Dealership coughed up the $$
      Outcome:
      Repaired by Toyota Panel Beater at Toyota's cost & Reinforced at the same time (extra plating)
      Battery Size:
      Deep Cycle SuperCharge Allrounder (25.38kgs)Tray Modifications: Had the same type of tray that is under the OEM setup on the LHS. Have now installed a ARB tray and modified it to have a cross support.
      Vehicle Modifications:
      At the time of the crack - had ARB Winch Bar with Lovells Coils/struts; Dual Battery with a Allrounder battery.
      4WD Trips: 1x Kenilworth To Imbil Forestry Trip; 1x Brisbane>Innamincka>Birdsville>Simpson Desert(QAA Line)>French Line>The Knolls Trk> Dalhousie Springs> Oodnadatta>Painted Desert>William Ck>Marree>Lyndhurst>Camerons Cnr>Bourke>Home Trip // No beach work at all. Other than that it's the wife's school/shopping car
      [I]cheers..... Rob (macca)[/I]
      [I][B][COLOR=DarkRed]Car-4: 1996 Defender Tdi [/COLOR][/B][/I]
      [I][B][COLOR=Blue]Car-3: 1996 Discovery Tdi Auto[/COLOR][/B][/I]
      [B][I][COLOR=Green]Car-2: 1993 Suzuki Vitara 4Dr (modified for Playing) [/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000]Now Retired[/COLOR][COLOR=Green] [/COLOR][/I][/B]
      [B][I][COLOR=DarkOrchid]Car-1: 2010 Toyota Prado 150's (Missus Car/current touring vehicle)[/COLOR][/I][/B]

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      • #4
        Member:
        DOM: 09/2009
        Engine: D4D
        Model: GXL
        Crack Location: Drivers Side
        Crack appeared @: 100,000 km? baught car 2nd hand
        Toyota Response: ?
        Outcome: will make get welded and make patch or see if i can get re-enforcement kit similar to the 120.
        Battery & Weight: century deep cycle (same size as factory on drivers side)
        Battery Tray: ARB battery tray ( none originally, only installed once i purchased car)
        Tray Modifications:
        Vehicle Modifications: OME 2in lift
        4WD Trips: unsure, however the owner lied about accident free, the inspector I paid missed it as well, on installation of roo-bar noticed that the plastic bumper support was broken at the rear and bumper was siliconed on drivers side, looks like crack may have been caused by accident damage, only around 5mm long, panel has small indentation heading towards engine bay, crack is located there.

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        • #5
          double post
          Last edited by Lee McCormack; 30-10-2013, 12:28 AM. Reason: double post

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          • #6
            Hey guys. Just noticed my inner guard today, not happy as warranty ran out in June.


            DOM: 05/10
            Engine: D4D
            Model: GX
            Crack Location: Passenger Side
            Crack appeared @: 78,000.
            Toyota Response: not going to try as its out of warranty.
            Outcome: TBA
            Battery & Weight: Excite extreme.
            Battery Tray:ARB
            Tray Modifications:NIL
            Vehicle Modifications: ARB Bullbar, powerful 4x4 rockslides with rails, tigerz11 full roof rack.
            4WD Trips:just around town and few locally around Darwin.

            http://s1297.photobucket.com/user/Mi.../library/Prado

            I have updated the photo to public view now. Very large crack.. :-x
            Last edited by mitchm; 11-11-2013, 11:46 AM. Reason: Photo update

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            • #7
              I feel really sorry for those that have found cracks.......but still does not appear to be a wide spread problem. In all the members here that have150's not that many reports of cracks. As I said sorry for those who have found cracks. Put the battery in the rear of the car.......
              Last edited by outback7; 11-11-2013, 07:22 AM.

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              • #8
                Do u still have the OEM battery in the LHS?

                Originally posted by mitchm View Post
                Hey guys. Just noticed my inner guard today, not happy as warranty ran out in June.

                DOM: 05/10
                Engine: D4D
                Model: GX
                Crack Location: Passenger Side
                Crack appeared @: 78,000.
                Toyota Response: not going to try as its out of warranty.
                Outcome: TBA
                Battery & Weight: Excite extreme.
                Battery Tray:ARB
                Tray Modifications:NIL
                Vehicle Modifications: ARB Bullbar, powerful 4x4 rockslides with rails, tigerz11 full roof rack.
                4WD Trips:just around town and few locally around Darwin.

                http://s1297.photobucket.com/user/Mi.../library/Prado
                [I]cheers..... Rob (macca)[/I]
                [I][B][COLOR=DarkRed]Car-4: 1996 Defender Tdi [/COLOR][/B][/I]
                [I][B][COLOR=Blue]Car-3: 1996 Discovery Tdi Auto[/COLOR][/B][/I]
                [B][I][COLOR=Green]Car-2: 1993 Suzuki Vitara 4Dr (modified for Playing) [/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000]Now Retired[/COLOR][COLOR=Green] [/COLOR][/I][/B]
                [B][I][COLOR=DarkOrchid]Car-1: 2010 Toyota Prado 150's (Missus Car/current touring vehicle)[/COLOR][/I][/B]

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by outback7 View Post
                  I feel really sorry for those that have found cracks.......but still does not appear to be a wide spread problem. In all the members here that have150's not that many reports of cracks. As I said sorry for those who have found cracks. Put the battery in the rear of the car.......
                  Yes not widespread as the cars are only 3 years old... This shouldn't be happening. Toyota need to do something about it that's for sure.
                  2012 4dr JK wrangler, 3.5" AEV lift, AEV mags, 35" muddies, front/rear arb bars, tjm sliders, pioneer platform and some other goodies

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by prado2004 View Post
                    Yes not widespread as the cars are only 3 years old... This shouldn't be happening. Toyota need to do something about it that's for sure.
                    Well maybe, in some cases. People by a Prado, then change the tyres, suspension, add aftermarket bullbars, side steps, scrub bars, a winch, a second battery and the list goes on. Then its completely Toyotas fault when something breaks? I am not so sure.

                    Cheers Andrew
                    [COLOR="#FF0000"]So Long and Thanks for all the Fish![/COLOR]

                    [url=http://www.4wdadventurers.com/showthread.php?3840-AJ-s-120-Prado]MY PRADO AND DIY CAMPER TRAILER[/url]

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                    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                    • #11
                      Has there been any in standard format that have developed cracks?

                      It would be interesting to hear from owners who have a Std Prado & drive continually on corrugated roads as to whether they have had any issues......

                      Rob
                      [I]cheers..... Rob (macca)[/I]
                      [I][B][COLOR=DarkRed]Car-4: 1996 Defender Tdi [/COLOR][/B][/I]
                      [I][B][COLOR=Blue]Car-3: 1996 Discovery Tdi Auto[/COLOR][/B][/I]
                      [B][I][COLOR=Green]Car-2: 1993 Suzuki Vitara 4Dr (modified for Playing) [/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000]Now Retired[/COLOR][COLOR=Green] [/COLOR][/I][/B]
                      [B][I][COLOR=DarkOrchid]Car-1: 2010 Toyota Prado 150's (Missus Car/current touring vehicle)[/COLOR][/I][/B]

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                      • #12
                        Cracked inner guard

                        Originally posted by rob_macca67 View Post
                        Has there been any in standard format that have developed cracks?

                        It would be interesting to hear from owners who have a Std Prado & drive continually on corrugated roads as to whether they have had any issues......

                        Rob
                        Hi Rob,

                        I work up on a mine site in the pilbara, Last night I checked all of the 150's (13 in total) in the car park and none of them had cracked inner guards, all have steel ARB bullbars and appear to have standard suspension, km's are unknown. they are driven on some pretty crappy roads up here and I'm sure a lot of people do not drive them the way we would drive our cars.

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                        • #13
                          Thanks for that.... That's surprising as I would have thought that the mining vehicles would have definitely had some issues....


                          Originally posted by leethal1 View Post
                          Hi Rob,

                          I work up on a mine site in the pilbara, Last night I checked all of the 150's (13 in total) in the car park and none of them had cracked inner guards, all have steel ARB bullbars and appear to have standard suspension, km's are unknown. they are driven on some pretty crappy roads up here and I'm sure a lot of people do not drive them the way we would drive our cars.
                          [I]cheers..... Rob (macca)[/I]
                          [I][B][COLOR=DarkRed]Car-4: 1996 Defender Tdi [/COLOR][/B][/I]
                          [I][B][COLOR=Blue]Car-3: 1996 Discovery Tdi Auto[/COLOR][/B][/I]
                          [B][I][COLOR=Green]Car-2: 1993 Suzuki Vitara 4Dr (modified for Playing) [/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000]Now Retired[/COLOR][COLOR=Green] [/COLOR][/I][/B]
                          [B][I][COLOR=DarkOrchid]Car-1: 2010 Toyota Prado 150's (Missus Car/current touring vehicle)[/COLOR][/I][/B]

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                          • #14
                            Great thread Brains. Hopefully we can shed a little more light on where the problem lies.

                            So far from everyones posts it seems that the crack can occur on either inner guard, and is only occurring if you have a dual battery setup, bull bar, and suspension lift. What is really alarming is that most of these vehicles have not really done much extreme off road trips except for Rob-Macca. All the other trips could be achieved in a stock 4x4 if you really wanted to. Keep the experiences coming in.

                            I am wondering if Toyota was using a different grade of material in the earlier models which is the cause, or whether its just the age of the car and over time that area starts to show fatigue. Either way you don't expect that in any 3 year old vehicle, especially when you pay a $60 000 premium when new.
                            [CENTER][/CENTER][B]RYAN[/B]
                            [CENTER][/CENTER]2012 White GXL TD Auto with some stuff...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by outback7 View Post
                              I feel really sorry for those that have found cracks.......but still does not appear to be a wide spread problem. In all the members here that have150's not that many reports of cracks. As I said sorry for those who have found cracks. Put the battery in the rear of the car.......
                              The only concern with putting a battery in the rear is the possibility of it leaking gas when it gets hot. Sealed or not sealed they can emit gases when being charged or when getting a little too hot. Not to mention that Toyota have designed the engine bay so that a second battery can be installed.
                              [CENTER][/CENTER][B]RYAN[/B]
                              [CENTER][/CENTER]2012 White GXL TD Auto with some stuff...

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