My engine chipping experience so far

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Im sure the lawyers will see it that way too.. Not.. As a note the particular OP of said email was not too happy.. And he also stated to me that his products do get sent in from Europe. Thats all I will say..

You were warned many many times that you were off topic or trolling.. Your username is now flagged and will be watched heavily.

AS A POINT you have stated you will NEVER buy said product, so dont bother starting a thread in relation to it now as you will be off topic and trolling.. And its your own words that got you inot that place...

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wow pretty heavy handed removing my post apologising and removing other posts in this thread. I guess in a court of law yeah you got me on what I said and can hold that against me but i thought this was a simple forum? Clearly doesnt pay to upset the sponsors or their mates so again I apologise and will try another forum with those questions will just go back to reading and looking here. I expect this will be removed too to make me look like the bad guy.

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Clearly doesnt pay to upset the sponsors or their mates so again I apologise and will try another forum with those questions will just go back to reading and looking here. I expect this will be removed too to make me look like the bad guy.

You just don't get it mate. It's nothing to do with sponsorship. It's your rude, arrogant, and attacking behaviour that has resulted in your posts being deleted.
You may or may not have valid questions. It's your lack of skill in articulating a point that is the issue.

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Anyway since I started this thread I would like to say that I have had my chip now for some time and it has been trouble free and my fuel economy has improved and I'm a happy camper

[Chip It Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Chip It]

Thanks Barry and thanks Mods. This was getting insane. As he mentions ... he will go off to another forum... so I hope other mods see through his antics as well. I dare say he will be a little more genuine sounding and probably use a different user name too to get under the radar. Anyways ... thanks all.

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You just don't get it mate. It's nothing to do with sponsorship. It's your rude, arrogant, and attacking behaviour that has resulted in your posts being deleted.
You may or may not have valid questions. It's your lack of skill in articulating a point that is the issue.

Ok I get that my forum manners and way of asking probably needs improvement but the questions were valid. Guess Robert can go back to plugging his product, sledging the others and answering the easy questions now. Have a nice day.

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And for the record Chip it is NOT a sponsor or paying member of Pradopoint or even known to me. (I have a petrol V6).
So the comment about protecting people is unfound.

We dont have to make you look like the bad guy, your actions here have done that for you.. You claim you will never buy said product, so why waste others time trying to discuss it?

Thread to stay ON topic..

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And for the record Chip it is NOT a sponsor or paying member of Pradopoint or even known to me. (I have a petrol V6).
So the comment about protecting people is unfound.

We dont have to make you look like the bad guy, your actions here have done that for you.. You claim you will never buy said product, so why waste others time trying to discuss it?

Thread to stay ON topic..

Banish him!

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to help admins with wooley's post, here is what he had to say as a final remark on PM.

Removed by Admin..
Given he still pipes up about not having his questions answered seems incredulous.

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Off topic removed an OP banned

Sick of your crap..

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http://www.pradopoint.com/forumdisplay.php?130-Rules

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I'm so close to closing this thread... Bring it back on topic or loose it!

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Chip-It, you mention you guys also offer a steinbauer type chip now ie; a PWM type. Have you heard off anyone running both and are there any power gains to be had or will it just be an over fuelled soot blowing monster? Also what are the prices of this type of chip? I'm also interested in the high spec fuel limiters, how much more psi does it take to open one of these bad boys?

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This thread is about Chip It chips and the experience of those that have them or are interested. You mark360 have never been in this camp and you will never be a customer of mine ... not whilst i'm alive ... not even if you were to pay double. Mods please assist

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yes ... we have a PWM (Pulse Width Modulation or injector style) chip. It will, on average, produce about 5% more power than the other brand ... probably based on tuning but I am not sure why. The Injector Chip WITH a fuel rail chip will haul ass. Power a plenty. This is because the fuel rail can only do so much. Then again the Injector style chip only has a limited amount of play before black smoke occurs. The benefit of both is that you dont need to go too high with either chip to make serious power. Say tune 9 on the fuel rail chip and mid way on the injector chip. Some folks on here accepted a PWM chip in lieu of the fuel rail chip when we had issues with the chip on the Prado 150. They tell of pretty good results.

If people with to understand more about modifying the PWM signal ask away. Its simple enough to explain.

Price is $1349.00 retail.

The fuel limiter billet is a blank. no pressure relief. The pressure limiter on the common rail is to stop people like us from getting high tunes into the vehicles. We have run 3 x the pressure on our test vehicles and only one had a slight leak out of the injector line (not the injector ... just the line that mates into the injector). That was on a 3.0 litre CR Patrol (i think it was a 2009 model ... actually one of our dealers cars). He replaced the injector seal (little O rubber ring) and the leak stopped. He also told us that he knew that these cars do leak around the injectors so he was not sure if the seal was bad to begin with.

We do have a hi-spec fuel limiter. It opens at around 35,000 psi. (stock is around 20-25,000 psi)

We dont go anywhere near double the standard pressures. No chip does. Probably around 18% higher only is where we sit on the higher tunes.

We honestly have hundreds of the billet limiters out there. No problems what so ever.

HOWEVER, the Hilux, Prado Common Rail Fuel limiter is very good in standard trim and the billet limiters are not made for the D4D as the D4D common rail has a feed back sensor to tell ECU when it has opened. So the best we were doing on these was to shim the original.

Like I said, unless you are going really high in the tunes, say tunes 10 -15 you would not need one and if you do wish to go that high we only do the shim on cars we do in our workshop (a little lie here as we have an overseas workshop that always begs us for them to be sent with the order

Reason we dont include these shims (for the D4D) anymore with mail out orders is because it can be a darn tight bolt to do up ... I mean REALLY tight. (approx. 150NM of force on torque wrench) and the average guy just want be able to reach in under the manifold and contort their arm near to the firewall and do the sucker up. Also the sensor plug will rotate around since the shim is taking up some thread space and people were complaining that it was too hard to put back on. We can do it. Same with our better dealers, but not for the faint hearted.

For other Denso or Bosch style fuel rails we do use and sell the billet limiters.