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    My brother, a truck diesel mechanic suggested I do these things as I have bought a 2011 150 series Prado with 60 000 kms on the clock. Unfortunately I received the vehicle without its service history, apparently it doesn't have one I was told. I have posted his suggestions of things I should to do to it if someone out there is also interested. These are merely his suggestions, you may or may not agree with all of them, you may also add your own suggestions if you want.....


    "Change the gearbox (manual) or transmission (automatic) oil just so that you know it is new and not contaminated in any way. Do the same for the break fluid, Then its all done and you never have to worry about it again. It may be over the top, but you never know what some clown may have done previously. Check the break rotors and pads for wear, no need to touch unless they are worn. Any Break place will typically give you the old ‘free break inspection’ because they hope to either sell you something or get your loyalty when it comes to repairs.

    Now I do not know how your model drives the timing but the previous model has a rubber timing belt. I would check when they normally get changed based on kilometres and if close rather than far to this distance get this changed. This is probably one item on the list I would give a higher priority to and keep in mind it will be more expensive, phone around for quotes and definitely get one from the Toyota dealer, they obviously would be the best to change this item if they aren't too much dearer than everyone else. Belts that aren't near perfect in these vehicles can make a reasonable difference to the cars performance and fuel usage.

    When and if you get the timing belt done get the tune done. Get a tune done regardless. This one is important. Again I would prefer to use the Toyota dealer for this one as they ‘will get it right’ or at least you hope so. The tune on these vehicles for your everyday mechanic is high risk unless they do them all the time. There can be a bit involved if adjustments are necessary. I would highly recommend a Toyota Dealer for this one and a tune is very high on the list.

    As this car has very likely traveled some very rough roads the wheel bearings would have copped a hiding. The break people could also inspect the bearings, but I would probably be more inclined to have them lift the wheel off the ground and do a feel test. This test should only be done by ‘an old timer’ mechanic would knows what to feel for, look for and has a very good idea about what they are doing. A novice will not have a clue. They may look like they know but it is highly unlikely.

    Always when getting your vehicle seen to, demand that a mechanic that is very experienced works on it, not the apprentice or someone recently graduated as a mechanic. We often get this request at work and it is always adhered to, if they don’t ask it often goes to an apprentice and vehicle is at risk, high risk in most circumstances.

    You could wash with some care the radiator fins externally if the have dust in them that has collected, this may not be the case but I would give it a rinse anyway, you will soon know if they have rubbish in them as some of it will start washing to the ground. If it is really bad the radiator must be pulled out to was external of the vehicle."

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    Don't forget fresh engine oil and fuel filter. Also check for fatigued rubber hoses, regrease driveline components and inspect suspension bushes. And if the engine is being looked at, get the air intake cleaned of carbon deposits.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Early View Post
      Don't forget fresh engine oil and fuel filter. Also check for fatigued rubber hoses, regrease driveline components and inspect suspension bushes. And if the engine is being looked at, get the air intake cleaned of carbon deposits.
      I bought 2012 gx D4D with 39k on and only one stamp in book at 40
      K 2years !
      Wasa cairns rental
      I have had all fluids changed a sap and was told it was like new
      These are good vehicles

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      • #4
        No service history is ok as long as its been looked after, I brought a new car many
        moons ago and never had it serviced by the dealer, did all the servicing myself and
        would have been done much better than they would.

        Then again I know of someone else who never had his car serviced and only ever topped
        up the engine oil as he thought changing the oil was only a con and oil didn't wear out!

        So bottom line is if it has been looked after then no issue, a good inspection before purchase would have picked up how the car had been looked after, ie no broken items, clean oil, clean motor no oil leaks etc.

        Doesn't hurt to change the fluids but generally if there clean and don't need to be changed I wouldn't. If their dirty then i would be worried about how well the cars been looked after.
        LeighW
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        Last edited by LeighW; 09-04-2015, 10:23 PM.
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        • #5
          Have you checked its VIN? It is very important when buying a used car.... Go for it on a specialise website like https://www.epicvin.com/en to get the info
          trevordd
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          Last edited by trevordd; 10-04-2015, 04:50 PM.

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          • #6
            http://www.revscheck.com.au/
            Do it for every car I've ever owned. For the $30 or so it costs it is worth it to know someone else's bank won't come knocking on your door to repossess the car.

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            • #7
              Umm . A log book service history is really a waste of time . You can have your dealer stamp you're book and they have done nothing other than change the oil . I have 6 mates who own their own shops . I do my own servicing . It's much better and I know that I haven't paid $100 per hour for some dipshit $15 /hr apprentice to f*#k my car up . My missus has her car serviced by toyota . What a waste of time and money . But she's a teacher and you can't tell a teacher anything . In short , a log book service is no indication that the car has been looked after well .
              03 grande v6 , with added stuff that makes it go places . RTFM people !
              founding member of the " you don't need all that crap on a prado association "
              "you only use 15% of your brain " Einstein . " so why not burn off the other 85% " Cheech & Chong .
              petrol , petrol ,petrol , you know it makes sense ! im kavpetrolbitch

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              • #8
                Originally posted by kav View Post
                Umm . A log book service history is really a waste of time . You can have your dealer stamp you're book and they have done nothing other than change the oil . I have 6 mates who own their own shops . I do my own servicing . It's much better and I know that I haven't paid $100 per hour for some dipshit $15 /hr apprentice to f*#k my car up . My missus has her car serviced by toyota . What a waste of time and money . But she's a teacher and you can't tell a teacher anything . In short , a log book service is no indication that the car has been looked after well .
                thats true, but not all of us are 100% mechanically minded so we require some help!

                At least if the car has even had 'attempted' service it would still be better than none at all.

                SAMUEL
                [I]Maroochydore, Sunshine Coast, Queensland[/I]
                1999 Toyota Landcruiser Prado RV 4cyl 2.7L Manual, Lifted 2-3" on Dobinson Springs & Shocks, Cooper STT Max Mud-Terrains in 235/85R16 all-round 32", Custom no Bullbar winch mount with Runva 11XP Winch, Black Sliders, 10000 Lumen, LED Lightbar

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                • #9
                  When we bought the C-ute it had a few missed services according to the log book. It was quite young and the services were time based rather than distance travelled. It came out that it had had some of those services but the service agent wouldn't open the glovebox to get the book and fill it out. The previous owner picked up a letter in which they said that they had done various services and she also gave me copies of the receipts. Even though it had gone past 80,000km (just) and time for that service I redid the whole thing. All fluids, valve check, filters etc etc. I can guarantee that the services weren't done properly so having the book filled out would have been false assurance that all the work had been done. I had checked the car carefully so I was happy to go ahead and effectively start fresh. If you can't check out the vehicle yourself then for peace of mind get a reliable mechanic to give it a thorough check then change all the fluids and filters. If it has the D4D then also check the injector feedback values and sump screen. If the vehicle is from a country area then also look for wiring damage caused by rats and mice. The ute wasn't serviced at the dealers by the way but the work that had been done was far from an Ultra service...
                  My 150 build - http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?27423-A-Random-approach-to-a-Bluestorm-150-GXL-D4D-automatic

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                  • #10
                    Agreed !
                    my D4D was ex rental and once sold an Ultratune service stamped at 40K beforec delivery to Brissy
                    I phoned them up and the chap was very happy to tell me they only changed oil and filter
                    Trucks in good nick, I beleive rental serviced but no stamps in book ,.
                    I changed every fluid anf filter

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