not trying to tell anyone how to suck eggs, but you guys complaining about the fuel economy realise that a new engine will use more fuel than one that has been properly worn in? and, surely you test drove the vehicle before you handed over your hard earned money? I don't understand how someone can pick up (purchase) a new car and not know how it drives?
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If you consider the v6 gets 15 to 16l city driving only. The diesel is bloody good. Isn't the facelift Prado heavier also?Originally posted by krypto View PostUltimately the Prado is a 2.5t vehicle not designed for urban shuttle runs, so expecting it to give the fuel economy of a small light 4 cylinder car is a bit unrealistic. It is pretty good all things considered.2018 150 Series Crystal Pearl Prado VX 2.8l. 2 inch King springs and Bilstein shocks, Airtek TJM snorkel.
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Hi guys, just reviving this thread and focusing on towing here.
How are the fuel figures on the new 2.8L when towing? From talking to people at boat ramps, they believe it is crap.
Reading online they say the 2.8L doesn't pull as hard as the 3.0L yet on paper it has more power and torque.
Just want to get some input here from the 2.8 owners. Thanks
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Just came back from Margaret River with a 2t caravan fully loaded and car also fully loaded. Used 16l down with a fairly strong headwind and returned 14.2l with no wind. Pulled fine. Would love a little more torque and power otherwise it's ok.2018 150 Series Crystal Pearl Prado VX 2.8l. 2 inch King springs and Bilstein shocks, Airtek TJM snorkel.
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Yes on paper it has more power and torque, but you definitely have to rev it higher than the 3.0 to get them. I recently towed a caravan (Jayco Expanda) from Sydney to Queensland and back, it cruised comfortably at 90-100kph on a flat but anything resembling a hill required 4th and high revs to keep momentum. This wasn't an issue for me (as I mostly tow in 4th) but your driving speed and style may vary.Originally posted by Turbo Piston View PostReading online they say the 2.8L doesn't pull as hard as the 3.0L yet on paper it has more power and torque.
What it may lack compared to the 3.0 in low-down power, though, is IMO more than offset in engine refinement ... it is much smoother and quieter than the 3.0.
Can't answer the fuel question, I don't track it in the 2.8 vehicle and didn't track it in the 3.0 I used to own.
Hope this helps
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Mine has done 16,000kms now. At about 11,000 I noticed significant improvement in power as measured by seat of the pants. It loosened up and definitely goes better. Still get left behind by Ranger utes on a hill, and would never catch my old 120 petrol. But very useable power curve and tows the boat just fine.
Just my 2c after a decent length of ownership. Don't even look at fuel consumption, its so much better than the 120 petrol!!!!
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Just completed a camping trip of 1300km of towing Jayco Flamingo camper (around 1.3t loaded) with an additional 250km trailer free highway driving and around 40km beach driving. Averaged 12.5 overall. Ave towing speed on speedo 105kph. Goes well towing until it sniffs a hill, but I can live with it as I can't break 3kph pushing the bloody camper down the driveway.
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Damn, so the Ford Ranger beats you up hill. I like the fact that they are 3.2 and 5 cylinder. Don't like the bad reviews though.Originally posted by RaggedJoe View PostMine has done 16,000kms now. At about 11,000 I noticed significant improvement in power as measured by seat of the pants. It loosened up and definitely goes better. Still get left behind by Ranger utes on a hill, and would never catch my old 120 petrol. But very useable power curve and tows the boat just fine.
Just my 2c after a decent length of ownership. Don't even look at fuel consumption, its so much better than the 120 petrol!!!!
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I had a couple of test drives and careful inspections of the Everest (Ranger). I agree that the engine seems to have a bit more mid/top power and was also better on handling and boot layout (and a bit better looking). But the the build quality was much worst than the Prado and the engine felt quite noisy and 'busy' around town (OK on freeway). If it was just a company car for 3 years then perhaps an option, but as a longer term private car not so good.
After about 6 months with my 2.8 the performance & economy is fine (and should improve) for how I drive it but I might get better springs/shocks to make it feel more settled at low speed and reduce nose dive (GXL).
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what bad reviews? the only thing bad about the everest is the the insane price tag. i did read it does lose out to prado in offroad climb until the rear diff was locked.Originally posted by Turbo Piston View PostDamn, so the Ford Ranger beats you up hill. I like the fact that they are 3.2 and 5 cylinder. Don't like the bad reviews though.
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He mentioned Ford Rangers and Rangers are lemons. Buy one and then comeback to us in a year's time and tell us how you had the whole drive train replaced under warranty. Buying one invites trouble.Originally posted by ArcticSoldier View Postwhat bad reviews? the only thing bad about the everest is the the insane price tag. i did read it does lose out to prado in offroad climb until the rear diff was locked.2005 120 series V6 Grande, 2 inch susp lift (King/EFS combo), 32 inch MT’s, Safari Snorkel, rear diff lock, breathers, Light Force spotlights, UHF, dual batteries.
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