New 2.8 1GD dies in traffic, won't start

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Apparently you can remove them. Probably not completely legal though.
You may as well remove the catalytic converter too while you're at it.

Yes, but it would require a remap to get it to work. With the CAT you can just remove it and leave everything else alone. I am involved in AG and the DPF engines are a nightmare.

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Under Australian law , the dealer has to be given 2 chances to rectify the problem or give your money back or a replacement . I returned a $15 000 boat and a $6000 bed under these rules . Good luck . Get rid of the lemon while you can .

[RyanIAm Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RyanIAm]

Dealer has replaced everything from fuel pump back to tanks, with the exception of the fuel lines which they have blown out tho. Still no luck. They have checked the towbar and bullbar harnessses also to make sure they werent causing issues - no dice. Toyota now coming out next week to dealership to have a look, after that it is most likely Toyota will say time for a new one.

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Dealer has replaced everything from fuel pump back to tanks, with the exception of the fuel lines which they have blown out tho. Still no luck. They have checked the towbar and bullbar harnessses also to make sure they werent causing issues - no dice. Toyota now coming out next week to dealership to have a look, after that it is most likely Toyota will say time for a new one.

Not good mate. Be sure to remind them you have invested in some TJM stuff that needs to be replaced/transferred as well...

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Dealer has replaced everything from fuel pump back to tanks, with the exception of the fuel lines which they have blown out tho. Still no luck. They have checked the towbar and bullbar harnessses also to make sure they werent causing issues - no dice. Toyota now coming out next week to dealership to have a look, after that it is most likely Toyota will say time for a new one.

Keep us posted.....looks like a new one is in order. They can send your current one back to Japan for analysis!!

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Need to keep some perspective, there are millions of Toyota D4D in lots of different models and we hear about the failures. You'll be struggling to find any engine that does not have some problems and even the best manufacturing processes have some level of error, that's the nature of the bell curve and normal distribution.

I would say that 2 weeks on the op has a pretty strong case to demand a new car.This may turn out to be some tricky problem with the GD or it may be a one off. Always sucks being a guinea pig.

By the description of the problem it has nothing to do with the DPF. DPF is a pain but you have your choice DPF or pollution, I was just driving behind an old diesel patrol and was struggling to see the street through the black smoke which is what the old tech gets you. And diesel pollution is nasty cancerous stuff, ask anyone who works in an underground mine what they think about breathing diesel fumes.

Most engine troubles are localised environmental issues, like fuel, service history, weather, owners habits etc. not a general unreliable design, it would cost the manufacturer too much to ignore, but a few like a fraction of a percent. No problem.


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[RyanIAm Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RyanIAm]

Car has now been in dealership for 3 weeks. Yesterday TMCA technical field manager spent around 8 hours pulling data and checking who knows what. All this data has been sent to TMCA Melbourne for a 'brainstorming session'. We will see what comes of that. I'm hoping its word from Toyota that my replacement vehicle will be ready to pick up soon. I'll be asking for a car fresh off the truck tho, because I know that nearly all GXL's on the lot have been cannibalised for parts for my issue!

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Hope you have win mate, 3 weeks is ridiculous. If they had of replaced it straight away they would be praised for their customer service but dragging it out like this just give them a bad reputation. I have told heaps of people your story and they then tell others and then more people know. Not very smart Toyota

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There's a saying , a satisfied customer will tell 3 friends , a dissatisfied customer will tell 10 friends . I'm sure you're dealer doesn't want your very new model car parked out front of his dealership , with a sign saying , DONT BUY ONE OF THESE ASK ME WHY , with your phone number on it .
Worked really well for me . And there's nothing the lawyers can do if you go down that path . You haven't defamed anyone . Good luck

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There's a saying , a satisfied customer will tell 3 friends , a dissatisfied customer will tell 10 friends . I'm sure you're dealer doesn't want your very new model car parked out front of his dealership , with a sign saying , DONT BUY ONE OF THESE ASK ME WHY , with your phone number on it .
Worked really well for me . And there's nothing the lawyers can do if you go down that path . You haven't defamed anyone . Good luck

And if you bought a Jeep Lemon you make a music video and upload it to youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=5sVmoOZRypk

I don't understand why the consumer laws don't seem to apply to new automobiles.

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There's a saying , a satisfied customer will tell 3 friends , a dissatisfied customer will tell 10 friends . I'm sure you're dealer doesn't want your very new model car parked out front of his dealership , with a sign saying , DONT BUY ONE OF THESE ASK ME WHY , with your phone number on it .
Worked really well for me . And there's nothing the lawyers can do if you go down that path . You haven't defamed anyone . Good luck

The problem is that Brad can't move the Prado to the front of the dealership.

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There's a saying , a satisfied customer will tell 3 friends , a dissatisfied customer will tell 10 friends . I'm sure you're dealer doesn't want your very new model car parked out front of his dealership , with a sign saying , DONT BUY ONE OF THESE ASK ME WHY , with your phone number on it .
Worked really well for me . And there's nothing the lawyers can do if you go down that path . You haven't defamed anyone . Good luck

Clearly its the dealers fault because they manufacture the prado themselves and have made zero attempt to fix the vehicle

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There's a saying , a satisfied customer will tell 3 friends , a dissatisfied customer will tell 10 friends . I'm sure you're dealer doesn't want your very new model car parked out front of his dealership , with a sign saying , DONT BUY ONE OF THESE ASK ME WHY , with your phone number on it .
Worked really well for me . And there's nothing the lawyers can do if you go down that path . You haven't defamed anyone . Good luck

It's even better if you strap an oversize lemon to the roof racks....it has been done before.

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I hope you have spoken to the DP so he is aware of whats happened?
It has been going on for some time now and should be resolved , we recently had a major failure in a new car that had 200 kms on the clock, we had them in a new vehicle in 2 weeks , would have been quicker if stock was available , but when i spoke to the DP about the failure we both agreed it was the right thing to do by the customer, there was no argument.

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I hope you have spoken to the DP so he is aware of whats happened?
It has been going on for some time now and should be resolved , we recently had a major failure in a new car that had 200 kms on the clock, we had them in a new vehicle in 2 weeks , would have been quicker if stock was available , but when i spoke to the DP about the failure we both agreed it was the right thing to do by the customer, there was no argument.

Had a face to face meeting with the DP and SM yesterday. They basically said hands are tied and have to follow the process that TMCA sets out, but the DP was going to go above the technical field managers to get a successful outcome.

For those playing along at home, a conference was held yesterday between technical support at TMCA and a number of technical field managers to try to work out what else it could be. I think they will want the vehicle for further examination which should trigger a replacement. I'm sick of the stress and worry and waiting! Hopefully I find out some more positive news today. I'm overseas next week so at least they will have plenty of time to source a new car (I stipulated I want one fresh off the truck that has not been cannabalised) and move all my bits across and organise tinting etc. I'll also be asking for free toyota roadside to be thrown in.