I asked to keep the old DPF for exactly that reason but got told it's a requirement for them to keep it so they can send it off for testing
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This video by John Cadogan may be of interest for those suffering problems with their DPF. $14,000 to replace a DPF on a Hilux, I wonder how much for a Prado?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bOlDFFhuPM
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Originally posted by Bear63 View PostWell we had another Hilux in today with a blocked DPF injector port totally blocked , so as i have said before , get that checked , if it cant inject the diesel to do the burn properly , nothing will happenArb colour code deluxe bar, safari snorkel, lightforce venom HID's, GME uhf remote face, redarc tow pro, redarc bcdc 1240, pioneer platform, 40" curved light bar, dual battery, 3" SS exhaust, EGR mod, trans cooler upgrade, provent catch can, scangauge 2, diesel care secondary fuel filter, Tin's bash plates and actuator gaurd, 2in Bilstien and kings lift,
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Originally posted by Rainman View PostThis video by John Cadogan may be of interest for those suffering problems with their DPF. $14,000 to replace a DPF on a Hilux, I wonder how much for a Prado?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bOlDFFhuPM2015 Prado 2.8 D4D
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Originally posted by Hally View PostIs it something that can be done at home or is it a big job2012 Graphite GXL T/D Auto, with all the normal crap you fit
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Hi Bear63,
what kind of km are you seeing these Hilux/Fortuner/Prado's present with the DPF port blockage?2016 Prado GX 2.8L Auto (The third tourer)
Y61 becomes Y62, R51 becomes R52. Nissan what are you smoking?
2013 Patrol GU 3.0L Auto (The second tourer)
2010 Patrol GU 3.0L Auto (The first tourer)
1991 Patrol GU 4.2 Auto (The training wheels)
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Originally posted by prodoco View PostI think he meant it $1400, $14k is price tag for a brand new engine.
$3k is nearer the markSilver '04 KZJ120~Manual~GXL~Dobinson/Kings lift~Custom valved Ironmans~Detroit Locker~Endless Air~X9 Superwinch~Madman EMS1~TJM Dual Battery~Rhino Roof Tray~120W solar panel~Foxwing awning~Bushskinz UVP~Long Ranger water tank~Bushman fridge~Steinbauer P-Box~Beaudesert 2 3/4"~Airtec Snorkel~TJM Sliders~Prico Boost Gauge~BFG-KO2s~TPMS~GME TX3420~Front and Rear Cameras~Ultimate Camper hanging off the back!
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My MY16 2.8 65000km 1 owner full Toyota service started doing the same thing today. Not at all impressed for a vehicle that cost just under $100k and is not yet 2 years old. Had heaps of issues with this vehicle, not likely to buy another Toyota. Overrated and over priced.
So glad to read all these comments to prepare myself for the confrontation with my dealer tomorrow.Last edited by Matt73; 15-11-2017, 08:30 PM.
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Originally posted by Matt73 View PostMy MY16 2.8 65000km 1 owner full Toyota service started doing the same thing today. Not at all impressed for a vehicle that cost just under $100k and is not yet 2 years old. Had heaps of issues with this vehicle, not likely to buy another Toyota. Overrated and over priced.
So glad to read all these comments to prepare myself for the confrontation with my dealer tomorrow.2018 150 Series Crystal Pearl Prado VX 2.8l. 2 inch King springs and Bilstein shocks, Airtek TJM snorkel.
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Ok, update again. It's now done closer to 3000km's post the DPF replacement and for 2200 of those kilometres I saw no white smoke, the squealing stopped in the engine bay or drivetrain (it was from somewhere) and I amazingly returned to an average of 9.3L/100km (down from high 11's) just like it did when new. Perfect.
About 300km's ago, the squealing started again. The Fuel usage is now 11.7L/100 (averaged over 450km's) and it's booked in for a look again in early December. I know the Re-gen had been 'done' - the fuel usage on the trip meter when upwards of 30L/100 while doing it for about 15 seconds at a time - but once again when I parked it (very soon after) I couldn't smell that DPF smell, even under the car. At least I didn't see white smoke (yet).
I've lost trust in this car taking my family outback in mid-December. And that, for me, is the end of it. I'll sort it out one more time else there'll be a Prado being traded in shortly! I REALLY wish they kept the Petrol in the new model - the Prado is awesome and Toyota have been (surprisingly, I must admit) very good at helping, I just have issues with the DPF.
Anyway - come December I'll put something up about what they've found this time.
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I am still trying to find a way to monitor the pressure difference either side of the filter. As I am able to run torque on my Chinese head unit I often watch the exhaust temperatures and DPF %. My regens in a manual (no idea if this makes a difference) seem to happen more frequently than has been described on here but the DPF gets hot enough and I assume it is clearing OK as no issues at all yet. Fuel economy has been good since new, and I am looking forward to hearing if I am due for the ecu "upgrade" at the next service in a couple of weeks time.
I am convinced that if there were a way to monitor the delta pressure we would know what is happening. Reports from Cuda and others suggest that the regen is started by distance travelled and fuel used not by what I consider would be a sensible approach of measuring how much resistance is in the filter. I think the length of burn is determined by temperature and time, so this doesn't really mean that the filter is cleared.
Meanwhile I keep trying custom pids in torque by trial and (mainly) error to see if I can make any sense of it. I have just received a lead for Techstream from China but despite trying many ways of adding the drivers it will not work in windows 10 64 bit. Works fine with XP though.
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Originally posted by CamJam View PostOk, update again. It's now done closer to 3000km's post the DPF replacement and for 2200 of those kilometres I saw no white smoke, the squealing stopped in the engine bay or drivetrain (it was from somewhere) and I amazingly returned to an average of 9.3L/100km (down from high 11's) just like it did when new. Perfect.
About 300km's ago, the squealing started again. The Fuel usage is now 11.7L/100 (averaged over 450km's) and it's booked in for a look again in early December. I know the Re-gen had been 'done' - the fuel usage on the trip meter when upwards of 30L/100 while doing it for about 15 seconds at a time - but once again when I parked it (very soon after) I couldn't smell that DPF smell, even under the car. At least I didn't see white smoke (yet).
I've lost trust in this car taking my family outback in mid-December. And that, for me, is the end of it. I'll sort it out one more time else there'll be a Prado being traded in shortly! I REALLY wish they kept the Petrol in the new model - the Prado is awesome and Toyota have been (surprisingly, I must admit) very good at helping, I just have issues with the DPF.
Anyway - come December I'll put something up about what they've found this time.2015 Prado 2.8 D4D
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Originally posted by prodoco View PostFor your trip in mid-Dec i highly recommend you should have your torque pro manual DPF burn (workshop force regeneration) custom PID ready in case if you get into limp mode plus screen of DPF Temp ( exhaust gas temp sensor 2 ) and DPF countdown ( 1-100, 100 burn start ) monitoring. Thread here showing all the custom PID codes : http://www.pradopoint.com.au/showthr...with-OBD-tools
https://www.exploroz.com/forum/13514...o-hot-for-some
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