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    I have just completed my DIY suspension install for our Prado 150. As I have found the information and stories on PradoPoint very helpful I though that I would write about my experience. It might help someone also considering doing his or her own suspension. Sorry, I neglected to take pictures.

    The Rear process
    Loosened the wheel nuts, jacked the car up and placed heavy-duty jack stands under the chassis just in front of the lower suspension arm mounting point. Removed wheels. Placed more jack stands at each end off the diff (to limit diff downwards travel) and a trolley jack under the middle of the diff, just taking the diff weight. Removed the rear shockers (nut at the top, bolt at the bottom).
    Carefully started lowering the diff. Noticed that the wiring to the ABS on the driver’s side of the diff would soon be stretched. Undid the bolt attaching this wiring to the body, this allowed a lot a free play on the wiring and it was no longer an issue.
    Continued carefully lowering the diff, it was clear that the flexible brake lines would be stretched. The two flexible brake lines come down from the body slightly on the passenger side of the diff centre. Undid the brake hose mounting bracket to the diff and the nearby bolts holding the fixed brake line to the diff, this allow quite a bit more movement. I didn’t want to disconnect the brake lines as this involves a trip to Toyota to clear the ensuing fault codes.
    WARNING I read several other stories of people changing their rear springs, leaving the wheels on and just pushing down on each wheel in turn to get the spring out. I consider that this approach has a very high chance of stressing the flexible brake lines, be very careful that you don’t put any strain on these, mine had quite limited slack.
    I started on the passenger side spring, as due to the break hoses it was clear that this side would be harder. If it was too hard I had less to put back together to take it to a professional. It was clear that I couldn’t get the diff down low enough the get the springs out (flexible brake hoses), I had the spring loose but couldn’t get it out. Fitted a spring compressor to the spring and compressed it a bit, this was very fiddly. Removed the spring.
    I was also fitting airbags to the rear so, following the instructions, I cut down the rubber bump stop that sits inside the spring and enlarged to top hole for the airline hose. I connected a length airline to airbag an threaded it through what was left of the bump stop. I fitted a spring compressor to the spring (my new springs were very long 435mm end to end) and then negotiated the whole lot back into the car.

    I then turned my attention to the driver’s side. I reasoned that I should be able to get this side a lot lower as the flexible brake lines would not be an issue. To let the drivers side of the diff drop a lot lower (axel stand placed under the passenger side) I removed the sway bar link and took out the bolt that secures the bracket to the handbrake cable. With this done I was able to easily lift the spring out. It was much faster than using a spring compressor, and it turned out that by using a block off wood to keep the diff pushed down I was able to get the longer replacement spring back in without using a spring compressor.


    What would I do differently?
    I would undo the sway bar straight away; this lets the diff come down a lot lower. The most important change is I would start on the driver’s side first. This side is quite easy. I would remove the spring from the driver’s side and leave it out. Then go and work on the passenger side. With no spring on the driver’s side it should be possible to jack the drivers side off the diff right up and support it with a jack stand. This should allow the passenger side to be carefully lowered (use trolley jack and a jack stand) without overextending the brake hose. I am fairly sure the passenger side would then come down low enough to allow the springs to be replaced without using a spring compressor. After the passenger side is complete then finish the driver’s side.

    see next post...
    Greg & Kris
    White Prado 150 GX D4D Side steps, window tint, Speedy wheels with Cooper AT3s more to come .....

    Our build up [URL="http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?24165-Greg-amp-Kris-s-150-GX-D4D"]http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?24165-Greg-amp-Kris-s-150-GX-D4D[/URL]

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    ..continued

    The front
    Loosened the wheel nuts then jacked the car up and placed heavy-duty jack stands under the chassis. Removed the wheels. Removed the engine under cover. Removed the front suspension brace, two brackets one each side, 3 bolts each. Disconnected the stabiliser link on each side where it attaches to the front strut assembly. Removed the two stabiliser brackets and then removed the bar from the car.
    Removed the lower shock absorber nut, bolt and washer. Removed the 3 nuts at the top of the shock absorber. At this point the service manual says “remove the front shck absorber with spring”. I don’t think this is possible, I tried all sort of angles and couldn’t get the assembly out. PradoPoint to the rescue, I removed the two lower bolts, lowered the bottom arm a bit and out it came.

    Enlisted the help of a friend who has a press and appropriate (safe) adapters to compress the springs and reuse the top mounting plate.

    WARNING: The lower mounting point on my Bilstien struts was narrower than the factory ones by about 2mm. This might be because the struts are 120 struts not 150 specific. Anyway I fitted a 2.5mm thick washer so that there was no free play.

    What would I do differently?
    I would remove the lower two bolts straight away. If I didn’t have access to a strut press I would order the struts pre assembled, several places are now offing this service.

    see next post....
    Greg & Kris
    White Prado 150 GX D4D Side steps, window tint, Speedy wheels with Cooper AT3s more to come .....

    Our build up [URL="http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?24165-Greg-amp-Kris-s-150-GX-D4D"]http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?24165-Greg-amp-Kris-s-150-GX-D4D[/URL]

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    • #3
      …continued

      The outcome
      Before the new springs my ride height (bottom of rim to under guard) was close to 760mm at the front and 755mm at the rear. I misplaced my front droop measurement, rear droop was about 885.This is with an alloy bar at the front, drawer fridge and battery in the rear, ¾ tank fuel.

      After the install the front was 795mm and the rear 820mm (less than 2mm diff side to side). Rear droop is about 900mm (new Bilstien part) and the front about 855mm.
      It drives very nicely, on doing a vigorous swerve the front is very controlled, the back rolls around as bit but it is still better than standard. Over the weekend I had the opportunity to go to Saunders Gorge, this track is a lot rougher that it used to be; I was very pleased to be able to complete all of the more difficult extension tacks with out touching anywhere. The true test hasn’t happened yet; I still don’t know how it works on corrugations. The air bag was nice to level the car out with the camper attached (no camper 5Psi, with camper 20Psi).

      Components chosen
      Front spring KTFR-101T
      Rear Spring KTPR-102
      Front shock Bilstien BE5-A712
      Rear shock Bilstien BE5-A715 (new part that has a bit more droop that the Prado 120 part)

      The front springs are a progressive rate spring made from tapered wire. The top two coils are very thin and could never hold the weight of the car. I suspect they are designed to be normally coil bound and only come into play at full droop with extended shockers, at this point there is no weight on the wheel so are very light spring is appropriate. With the standard length Bilstien struts that I fitted my top two coils are still coil bound at full droop. The rear springs are a progressive rate spring, I have the top four coils bound at normal working height, and at full droop I still have 2.5 coils bound. I suspect that these springs would be quite suitable with long travel rear shockers. Not to increase ride height but to increase droop. Note I expect this would require the fitment of longer brake hoses.
      Greg & Kris
      White Prado 150 GX D4D Side steps, window tint, Speedy wheels with Cooper AT3s more to come .....

      Our build up [URL="http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?24165-Greg-amp-Kris-s-150-GX-D4D"]http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?24165-Greg-amp-Kris-s-150-GX-D4D[/URL]

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      • #4
        Interesting measurements my rear standard with airbags 5psi is 800mm, was there only 20mm lift?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Symo View Post
          Interesting measurements my rear standard with airbags 5psi is 800mm, was there only 20mm lift?
          I have a fridge, deep cycle battery and fairly full drawer in the rear. Before the upgrade my rear was 755, so I went up 65mm. I don't have a measurement of the car without the fridge drawers etc, but I know that my rear springs were very soft. If I hadn't been doing a suspension upgrade I was proposing a warranty claim.
          Greg & Kris
          White Prado 150 GX D4D Side steps, window tint, Speedy wheels with Cooper AT3s more to come .....

          Our build up [URL="http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?24165-Greg-amp-Kris-s-150-GX-D4D"]http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?24165-Greg-amp-Kris-s-150-GX-D4D[/URL]

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Symo View Post
            Interesting measurements my rear standard with airbags 5psi is 800mm, was there only 20mm lift?
            Standard is 780.
            Airbags & 5 psi has given you 20mm

            So the op has 40mm.

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