Suspension for corrugations

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What don’t you get ? I Again asked your background and qualifications in regards to Suspension so I could quantify your responses re: shock absorbers.
You seem to be going around in circles and avoiding a simple question. Trolling I would guess.

We run run various types of shocks on various types of race vehicle. Dependent on what the terrain is to speeds to fuel payload to setup etc.
Eg. The Safari and Dakar hilux runs two sets of proflex at each corner, 8 shocks total. Valving is dependent on which stage/terrain is to be undertaken.

Yes we run foam cells on some vehicles. That encounter rough gravel and dirt roads and corrugations. Have not seen an overheating situation that you describe and shocks have in some situations stayed cooler than the temps we have logged on the remote reservoir Ohlins. Probably due to the huge bodies and capacity.

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There is no need to get upset,
because someone does not agree with you that is not a reason to attack, it is a forum you want to encourage discussion

I still standby by my comment, given the area he lives they are not suitable,

Why don’t we look into it, What temps will we see in these shocks after 1 hour of hard use and what % of efficiency is lost per 20c increase of temperature

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If you had the money/ resources you'd put a variety of different shocks on a test machine and pound the crap out of them for an hour and then record oil temperatures and measure fade. I didn't get whiteys foamcells (much to my disappointment- and also missed out on the other set of revalved billys). The advantage of a custom valved setup like Whitey has done is that he's actually put the hours in to tailor a product to suit the exact vehicle that the shock is going into- Not a variety of cars that share similar traits and where compromises have to be made to have a one size fits all package. I personally wouldn't touch BP51's with a long stick- ARB make many good products, but suspension products aren't one of them (yes I know that they contract the springs out, but they're specs must be shite as everyone that I've seen buy them have had huge sag).

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Rockhop you have no credibility whatsoever. You dismiss a product you have no experience of and dismiss the raw product it is based on without any supporting evidence. You are the worst keyboard warrior, pull the "I am being picked on because I have a different opinion to you card" when you have expressed an opinion, been asked to back it up and have either chosen not to or simply cannot. So for the final time shit or get off the pot. Piggy and I have opened up with our experience. What is your experience and background to back up your assertion? You work for yourself, so do I! Are you a seller of suspension or 4wd gear? Are you parroting something you were told or read or do you really have something to offer. I am a mechanical engineer and like something other than rhetoric to justify such a strong opinion.

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Boys boys play nicely! Keep it professional.

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Rockhop you have no credibility whatsoever. You dismiss a product you have no experience of and dismiss the raw product it is based on without any supporting evidence. You are the worst keyboard warrior, pull the "I am being picked on because I have a different opinion to you card" when you have expressed an opinion, been asked to back it up and have either chosen not to or simply cannot. So for the final time shit or get off the pot. Piggy and I have opened up with our experience. What is your experience and background to back up your assertion? You work for yourself, so do I! Are you a seller of suspension or 4wd gear? Are you parroting something you were told or read or do you really have something to offer. I am a mechanical engineer and like something other than rhetoric to justify such a strong opinion.

I don’t feel I am being picked on at all ( if that is even possible on a forum ) just no need for this type of talk while having a discussion

As per my other posts I think they are a good shock but not suited for this specific use. I don’t see that as bagging but there are a few comments of bagging brands here, there not from me

Since every one is really wanting to know why I think this, there efficiency loss as they get hotter is actually greater than others in its class that does not even include remote res shocks given they want these specifically for everyday use on corrugated roads they are not the best choice. I stand by that

If you don’t agree have a look for your self

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Yeah, nah. Bye. You still haven't backed up your opinion with anything.

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I bought Whitey's revalved Ironman Foamcells. Having previously worked in a 4WD shop that sold Ironman briefly (and found them to be rubbish), I was sceptical, but took a chance based on the reviews.

I live in Alice Springs and have done about 20,000kms since fitting them. I found them slightly harsher on-road, which is to be expected. But having done a lot of kms on roads like the Tanami and Plenty Highways, Central Desert Way, Binns Track, Finke Road and others around here, I can't rate them highly enough. They are better than anything else I've ever driven in and certainly owned.

And none of that is based on anything scientific, it's all just the feel of driving the car. And I've been over a lot of those roads pre and post Whitey's suspension, so I feel I'm comparing reasonably fairly. So GeeDee, if you can find a set of Whitey's somewhere, or he'll do another set, I'd recommend them in a heartbeat. Just my humble opinion of course.

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I don’t feel I am being picked on at all ( if that is even possible on a forum ) just no need for this type of talk while having a discussion

As per my other posts I think they are a good shock but not suited for this specific use. I don’t see that as bagging but there are a few comments of bagging brands here, there not from me

Since every one is really wanting to know why I think this, there efficiency loss as they get hotter is actually greater than others in its class that does not even include remote res shocks given they want these specifically for everyday use on corrugated roads they are not the best choice. I stand by that

If you don’t agree have a look for your self

Still waiting on the qualifications and proof to quantify these statements.. Seems nothing forthcoming..

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I'm not sure if I'm brave enough to chip in but hey, I guess I don't have to come back if you all get nasty! I have no relationship with Dobinsons other than as a happy customer.

I've had Dobinson MRR's on the car for a few years and have found them to be great. They've done lots and lots of high speed corrugated roads towing a Tvan with the car loaded up as well. I'd say I've given them a harder time than most people would without any real issues.

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I'm not sure if I'm brave enough to chip in but hey, I guess I don't have to come back if you all get nasty! I have no relationship with Dobinsons other than as a happy customer.

I've had Dobinson MRR's on the car for a few years and have found them to be great. They've done lots and lots of high speed corrugated roads towing a Tvan with the car loaded up as well. I'd say I've given them a harder time than most people would without any real issues.

Ask Photoprado about his dobinsons.. Didn't last too long..Left him screwed in middle of the NT after about 5000kms..

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Still waiting on the qualifications and proof to quantify these statements.. Seems nothing forthcoming..

Done with this, I did spell it out for you read my last post all the info is there.

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Done with this, I did spell it out for you read my last post all the info is there.

You offered nothing of what I asked.. I am just going to label you a troll that doesn't have the qualifications or proof to backup your ridiculous claims.. Nil credibility as someone else commented. I also liked the fact you Pooh pooh Kings as cheap rubbish yet another thread here on PP you rant about how good they are.. Troll material indeed.

Unless you're going to start posting real world figures with proof to back them up, and any actual quantifiable material, I'd suggest staying out of the suspension sandpit.

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There is no need to get upset,
because someone does not agree with you that is not a reason to attack, it is a forum you want to encourage discussion

I still standby by my comment, given the area he lives they are not suitable,

Why don’t we look into it, What temps will we see in these shocks after 1 hour of hard use and what % of efficiency is lost per 20c increase of temperature

A few of us have tested them in real world conditions, and I actually measured the temps under extreme conditions. Perhaps you missed that?

Suspension is a minefield of opinions. However there are a number of knowledgeable PP members, some of whom have posted here, who's opinions carry a fair amount of weight because they are based on real world experience and facts.

Perhaps a relevant quote;'You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.' (Although a few politicians are challenging this)

I think this thread is done.

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You offered nothing of what I asked.. I am just going to label you a troll that doesn't have the qualifications or proof to backup your ridiculous claims.. Nil credibility as someone else commented. I also liked the fact you Pooh pooh Kings as cheap rubbish yet another thread here on PP you rant about how good they are.. Troll material indeed.

Unless you're going to start posting real world figures with proof to back them up, and any actual quantifiable material, I'd suggest staying out of the suspension sandpit.

Well done

Just in case you missed it
kings is a cheap brand from supacentre
KING make good suspension.

I think iv heard about enough please spare me the big words like quantifiable I’m not buying the fact your educated,

You have a goodnight