Not happy TJM Wheres the wheel alignment i paid for

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Re: Not happy TJM Wheres the wheel alignment i paid for

Just to let you know that you won't feel anything through your streering or baking test after a lift kit is put in an IFS suspension. The only thing that really changes is your camber, not caster. The car still drives straight but is wearing the inside edge of the tyres. Look at V8 Super cars, F1 cars, they all run negitive camber but drive and brake straight.

Lifting suspension creates positive camber, increasing wear on the outside edge of the tyre,it also increases toe in. Positive camber reduces steering effort (makes it feel light/vague) Causes poor turn in and makes the vehicle tend to (Plow) understeer. Excessive toe in will cause steering instability and also skirming under firm/heavy braking as the tyres try to straigten up.

Most IFS vehicles are not particularly sensative to castor settings, higher angles improve straight line stability at speed but also increas steering effort. The critical thing is the settings are matched both sides to prevent the vehicle pulling.

Mick

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Re: Not happy TJM Wheres the wheel alignment i paid for

Sorry I said wear on the inside but I meant it is on the outside, my mistake. The point I was just trying to make was the car won't pull sidways if you let go of the wheel, pull under braking. I doubt 99% of us driving a car could feel if the camber (not caster) is out of alignment as I guess Pradodiesel didn't.
Peter

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Re: Not happy TJM Wheres the wheel alignment i paid for

I doubt 99% of us driving a car could feel if the camber (not caster) is out of alignment as I guess Pradodiesel didn't.

Apparently it was very noticeable:

The end result was a massive positive camber with horrible handling and steering.

Anyway.... moving along. I think this one's probably run its course.

Mick

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Re: Not happy TJM Wheres the wheel alignment i paid for

To be honest the prado would have been lucky to have done 500ks in that 3 month period and 490 of them were done by the wife
The tyres were not worn out but replaced with new off road rubber
Anyway I can happily slam Tjm all I like because on this occasion they did the wrong thing 3rd party alignment or not.

Face to face dealing with the manager is ok if you have all day to drive over there and do it