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    BFG AT 265/70/R17 or 265/65/R17?

    Hi guys, in the final stages of negotiation on a new GXL V6 Auto. I will be changing the tyres immediately and am wondering what your thoughts are on 65 series vs going to 70 series tyres? Will there be a noticeable decrease in grunt with the larger tyres due to the change in gearing? I know with my NS pajero (manual) it did make a noticeable difference (not huge but noticeable).

    Obviously the advantage is more clearance with the 70 series tyres.

    This vehicle will be used off road.

    Cheers, Sam.
    150 GXL V6 Auto. BFG AT 275/65/R17, ARB Deluxe Winch Bar, OME 2" Lift, Firestone Airbags, Dual Batteries, GME UHF, Rhino Sportz Crossrails and Platform Rack, ARB Awning, Redarc Brake Controller, Rear Drawer System, Safari Snorkel, New Toyota Mudflaps, Kaymar 'Wheel on Door' Bracket, ARB Under Vehicle Protection, IPF 900XS Spotties, Allied Hammer Wheels. Disclaimer - I am an ARB employee. [B][URL="http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?17348-Sam-s-150-V6"]Buildup Thread[/URL][/B]
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    Re: BFG AT 265/70/R17 or 265/65/R17?

    I am in the process of shopping around for the 265/70/17 tyres in LT construction.

    If I were you, I would fit the same size, as the 265/65/17 are not available in LT construction which is much more preferable for anyone doing off road driving IMO.
    The 65 series turns 12 more revolutions per 1km, so there is bugger all difference in them really, as far as I am concerned.
    2008 Diesel Prado with extra stuff added. I drive it on the road and other places too.

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    • #3
      Re: BFG AT 265/70/R17 or 265/65/R17?

      I run the 265/70's and they are great. I have heard/read that there may be issues in an accident with insurance because they are larger than allowed??, but i'm not planning on crashing into anyone soon. :lol:
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      • #4
        Re: BFG AT 265/70/R17 or 265/65/R17?

        Originally posted by Davros
        I am in the process of shopping around for the 265/70/17 tyres in LT construction.

        If I were you, I would fit the same size, as the 265/65/17 are not available in LT construction which is much more preferable for anyone doing off road driving IMO.
        The 65 series turns 12 more revolutions per 1km, so there is bugger all difference in them really, as far as I am concerned.
        I have 265/65/17 in LT construction, so maybe BFG have discontinued that option ?
        I'll be going to 70 profile next however ( the dogbone spacers are ordered to space the tyre out from the rear door )
        In a 120, the 70 size makes the speedo spot on. Not sure in a 150.
        Cheers, Wayne

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        • #5
          Re: BFG AT 265/70/R17 or 265/65/R17?

          I run the BFG LT 65 series and this has kept my speedo spot on so I suppose it is just a bit different for everyone.
          [B]Tasmania 2015 GTG Committee Member[/B] 2005 Prado Pilbara, Sovereign Bar, Driver & passenger weathershields, UHF TX3220, Spare wheel spaces, Lifestyle rack, Genuine front & midrow seatcovers, Genuine front & midrow rubber floor mats, ARB 47 litre fridge/freezer, Hilux washer jets, BF Goodridge A/T, Radiator protection plate, Dual battery tray and isolator, ARB 2.5m awning, Rhino heavy duty areo bars, MSA rear wheel bin, MAXTRAX

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          • #6
            Re: BFG AT 265/70/R17 or 265/65/R17?

            Hi there
            I have 70's but only because I couldn't get 65's in the tyre I have. 65's are legal and 70's are illegal. You are allowed 15mm increase in overall wheel diameter (legally) but the 70's make the tyre 26.5mm larger than standard (776mm for 65's compared to 802mm for 70's). Insurance wise your car suppose to be legal, but supposedly only an issue if the modifcation was a contributing factor to the accident. I'm not a laywer so I can't back you up in court with that but this is what I have found out. Ground clearance isn't really an issue here as with a deflated tyre you would be lucky to pick up 7 or 8mm. Not really moving up to a 33" or anything. My advice, if you can stay legal in the tyre you want, get them.
            Hope this helps
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            • #7
              Re: BFG AT 265/70/R17 or 265/65/R17?

              I have 265/65/17 in LT construction, so maybe BFG have discontinued that option ?
              Don't know. My tyre guy spoke to the BFG rep while I was there, and that is what I was told.
              265/70/17's are also very hard to come by at the moment. I have a set on the way from FNQ, to be fitted on Saturday. They are costing me $356.00 a tyre.
              I hate to think what the next boat load of tyres will cost retail with the dollar plunging of late. :?
              2008 Diesel Prado with extra stuff added. I drive it on the road and other places too.

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              • #8
                Re: BFG AT 265/70/R17 or 265/65/R17?

                All BFG's AT's are now LT construct.

                There are actually 3 size choices from BFG 265/65/17 LT, 265/70/17 LT and 275/65/17 LT

                The last one is within the 15mm change allowed in QLD (not sure about VIC)

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                • #9
                  Re: BFG AT 265/70/R17 or 265/65/R17?

                  we have the 270/65/17 BFG A/T they are great and fill out the arches with out rubbing here is a link to our build up, i have other photos with the tyres on full articulation if ya want

                  viewtopic.php?f=38&t=8529
                  2010 Blue Storm GXL Deisel Auto, HR towbar, uniden UHF, 270/65/17 BFG A/T, Delux ARB bullbar (FITTED), IPF Xtreme Spotties, Safari Snorkel (to come) Sungrabba mats (awesome)

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                  • #10
                    Re: BFG AT 265/70/R17 or 265/65/R17?

                    I am VERY happy with my 275's.

                    Have a look at my rig: http://www.pradopoint.com/viewtopic....winder#p115333



                    This is just after the 275's were fitted with the 2" lift.
                    Prado 150 GXL - V6 Auto, ABR-SIDEWINDER Dual battery System, Tekonsha P3, 50mm Lift kit - King Springs & Bilstein Shocks, Polyair Bags, BFG 275/65R17 Tyres, Milford Cargo Barrier, ERPS Extreme use 10 coupler rust protection, Rhino Rack, Factory Towbar, ABR-SIDEWINDER fridge/freezer, ABR-SIDEWINDER compressor and PSV deflators, Twin Drawer system, Fridge Slide, Twin 23L water tanks, 80W Solar Panel, Hot Water Shower, ARB Awning, Toyota Seat Covers, ARB Winch Bar, Warn XD9000, HID's, Snorkel .
                    My website: [url]http://www.sidewinder.com.au/[/url]

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                    • #11
                      Re: BFG AT 265/70/R17 or 265/65/R17?

                      I have the 265/70r17 on my 120 at the moment. I need a new set and noone in Sydney can get them. Apparently a boatload are coming in with a month.

                      I have written the first 120 off with these tyres. The insurance company knew the size and type of the tyres on it. They replaced the whole car including the so called 'illegal' tyres. Let the insurance company know of what you have and if they are willing to insure you then i don't think it is a problem, so long as your tyres are not stupidly large i guess.

                      Jonny

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                      • #12
                        Re: BFG AT 265/70/R17 or 265/65/R17?

                        Originally posted by Jonny
                        I need a new set and noone in Sydney can get them. Apparently a boatload are coming in with a month.
                        Jonny
                        Yes that is the case here in Vic as well, I'm told 2-4 weeks unless you can find someone who stocks them. I found a bloke in ferntree gully with 9 (now 5) for $345 a tyre, just depends how bad you want them!
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                        • #13
                          Re: BFG AT 265/70/R17 or 265/65/R17?

                          I was looking into this this week - supply seems an issue - Widetread in Lilydale had them in stock - big pricing difference between 265/70/17 ($360 odd) and 26/65/17 ($310) - cant remember eact prices but was about $50 a tyre difference.
                          2010 GXL Diesel Auto White, Goodyear Silent Armor, Toyota towbar, Tint, Ausguard Cargo Barrier, Wetseat covers - 2nd Battery yet to be fitted

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                          • #14
                            Re: BFG AT 265/70/R17 or 265/65/R17?

                            This offer might sweeten the BFG deal http://www.bfgoodrichpromosaustralia.com/
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                            • #15
                              Re: BFG AT 265/70/R17 or 265/65/R17?

                              Originally posted by D4D
                              This offer might sweeten the BFG deal http://www.bfgoodrichpromosaustralia.com/
                              Yeah Nathan at Jax in Caulfield South mentioned that to me.

                              Are the Black Max compressors any good?
                              150 GXL V6 Auto. BFG AT 275/65/R17, ARB Deluxe Winch Bar, OME 2" Lift, Firestone Airbags, Dual Batteries, GME UHF, Rhino Sportz Crossrails and Platform Rack, ARB Awning, Redarc Brake Controller, Rear Drawer System, Safari Snorkel, New Toyota Mudflaps, Kaymar 'Wheel on Door' Bracket, ARB Under Vehicle Protection, IPF 900XS Spotties, Allied Hammer Wheels. Disclaimer - I am an ARB employee. [B][URL="http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?17348-Sam-s-150-V6"]Buildup Thread[/URL][/B]

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