ironman spotlights

[benwalden Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close benwalden]

hey guys just looking at putting spotties on my truck. cant afford Lightforce at the mo so was thinking about getting some 175 ironman gamma spots. has anyone had any experience with them? any help would be great. cheers Ben

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a mate of mine has them on his hilux, IMO they look pretty ordinary, but hes happy with the light they put out so guess you will have to be a judge, have you considered roo-lite? cheers samo

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I would say, put it off a bit longer and save up more coin, get the better quality light over the cheap chinese Ironman ones, when ever it come to lighting or recovery/safety gear, always buy the quality brands, your life may depend on it one day.

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when ever it come to lighting or recovery/safety gear, always buy the quality brands

And what exactly are these quality brands?? There are too many stories on here and elsewhere, things like poor welding on ARB, TJM bars, dents on brand new items, overall poor quality by aus 4x4 brands. A brand name means nothing when it comes to quality IMHO. If you want quality, inspect the item yourself. Inspect every inch of it, including each of the components that make up what ever your are looking at. I bought a rear recovery hitch from BCF because I was able to compare it directly to a supposed 'quality' brand, and there was absolutely no difference. I even went to the local rigging shop and upgraded the shackle and still had spare money.

I have looked in to Roo Lites, and the 220xp seems like very good value for money, especially when you can get them new on fleabay for $238 (about 70 cheaper than the auto shop). I have read fairly good reviews about them. All comes down to what you want to spend really...

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And what exactly are these quality brands?? There are too many stories on here and elsewhere, things like poor welding on ARB, TJM bars,

There should be no welding problems on the ARB or TJM bars, as they are done by computer controlled robots, also I have not seen anyone on this site complain about the welding on ARB or TJM bars, sure your not getting confused with Ironman bars (which are a copy of the ARB bar) as they are hand welded.

I have an ARB bar on my rig, and the welding is beautiful, I dont think anyone could do a better job by hand. I have previously had TJM bars, although they are not a strong as the ARB bar, they are still good quality.

Another thing to remember is that ARB and TJM are Australian made, so it is keeping Australians in work, if we keep buying cheap crap from over seas (ie china, India) we will all be out of a job soon.

[timmay5.7 Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close timmay5.7]

There should be no welding problems on the ARB or TJM bars, as they are done by computer controlled robots, also I have not seen anyone on this site complain about the welding on ARB or TJM bars, sure your not getting confused with Ironman bars (which are a copy of the ARB bar) as they are hand welded..

You probably aren't looking hard enough. I have seen a few.

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also I have not seen anyone on this site complain about the welding on ARB or TJM bars

You sure Croozaa? How about this thread? Rusted straight out of the box, problems with welds and dents, and AJ is not the only one to note these issues.

http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...-trailer/page7

Another thing to remember is that ARB and TJM are Australian made

You should probably do some research on this too. Bullbar manufacture is being pushed overseas to save costs. TJM are doing it and ARB will eventually do it too because they are on the stock market, and eventually the desire to increase company worth and stock worth will get the better of them. They also charge excessive prices on a lot of things, because they realise they have a captive market. The very car you drive in is "cheap crap from overseas", by the way...

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You sure Croozaa? How about this thread? Rusted straight out of the box, problems with welds and dents, and AJ is not the only one to note these issues.

http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...-trailer/page7



You should probably do some research on this too. Bullbar manufacture is being pushed overseas to save costs. TJM are doing it and ARB will eventually do it too because they are on the stock market, and eventually the desire to increase company worth and stock worth will get the better of them. They also charge excessive prices on a lot of things, because they realise they have a captive market. The very car you drive in is "cheap crap from overseas", by the way...

To have dents and missalignment in the bar, obviously means the bar has been miss handled, either in transit or in the werehouse, the lack of powdercoat, would be the human error, the rust would be because of the lack of protection from the powdercoat, around that time of year and before, the welding was touched up by human input, today it is fully done by robots. In regards to manufacture moving overseas, you are basing that on rumour, and just because a company is on the stock exchange does not mean they move all manufacture over seas. ARB has a massive new state of the art factory in Melburne just for the bullbar manufacture.
The Prado may be made OS, but it is not made in China, Like the Ironman stuff.
Now lets get back to the original topic.

[samo Addicted PP Member Find all posts View Profile Close samo]

good idea fellas stay on topic, i have had my roolite 220s for 4 years and have been great to me, others have had mixed reviews. cheers samo

[PradOz Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close PradOz]

as they are done by computer controlled robots, ...... so it is keeping Australians in work, if we keep buying cheap crap from over seas (ie china, India) we will all be out of a job soon.

are we going to put australian robots out of work? sorry its just an observation from the way you have worded it,

let's get back on track... i cant afford these lights either and i am happy enough with my "cheapies". if what you are buying is better than what you have now shouldnt you be happy. we all want to have the best in life be it cars, accessories, houses, tvs etc etc. all comes back to what you can afford and if the thing you are buying is better than what you already have now, cheers

[benwalden Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close benwalden]

are we going to put australian robots out of work? sorry its just an observation from the way you have worded it,

let's get back on track... i cant afford these lights either and i am happy enough with my "cheapies". if what you are buying is better than what you have now shouldnt you be happy. we all want to have the best in life be it cars, accessories, houses, tvs etc etc. all comes back to what you can afford and if the thing you are buying is better than what you already have now, cheers

not a bad way to look at it mate. i dont have any at the moment so a glow worm in a jam jar would be better than what i have.

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I've got Roo-lites 180 and they are fine for the amount of night time travelling we do (which is very minimal). It certainly is better than the stock high beams but I can't compare with any other lights as I have not used any other ones or been in a car with one.

[xlr8_87 Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close xlr8_87]

I've got them (I think it's them, they're ironman and about 175). Average really. Better than nothing don't get me wrong but don't shine up that great. Also water gets in them. They still work but for about 3 months I had one light about 1/4 full of water until it eventually evaporated

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I've got them (I think it's them, they're ironman and about 175). Average really. Better than nothing don't get me wrong but don't shine up that great. Also water gets in them. They still work but for about 3 months I had one light about 1/4 full of water until it eventually evaporated

cheers mate. your PM helped heaps. i think i could put up with not super light as they are cheap i know that, but if you are always adjusting them i cant be bothered with that. having something that isnt going to move about is just as important as good light as far as im concerned.

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I had a Land Rover Defender TDI that I wanted to add some spots to. I had a look at Warn, IPF, Hella and some more well known brands, but I could not believe the prices. What I did on the end of the day, I had a look at cheap spotlights that had a lense that could maybe do the job if I put better high quality globes in. So I bought the cheap spots, ordered globes on ebay (or it was bid or buy, cant remember) and on the end of the day I had better spotlights (light wise) than my friends expensive Warn spotlights.

It's nearly 3 years now on the Defender and the new owner contacted me to find out what I did to get it to work so well. Because he noticed it was a cheap brand, but giving a lot of light and far.

I'm one of those handyman's that will first try and build my own, and if it doesn't work I will go and buy it. You'll be surprised with some skills, tools, time and patience what you can achieve.