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    Hi guys and girls just wondering if any one has tried 35" tyres. i currently have a set of 33" for off road but want to go bigger. I already have a 2" lift. Will adding 2" coil and strut spacers (equaling 4" lift) do it? May also have to drop the front diff 1".
    Any thoughts?

  • #2
    First off, why 35's? If it's for basic clearance issues and mud, fine. If it's for gnarly tracks with rock steps, etc, forget it, because it'll push the transfer and driveline beyond it's ability, IMO. For the gnarly stuff you need lockers.

    Technically (based on what I've read); you'll need to replace the front upper arm to prevent arm-to-coil binding, and the front diff might need more drop than that for a full 4". Some other components may need extensions or drop brackets as well, such as the panhard rods, handbrake bracket and brake hoses (you have to consider everything when going above 2" ). Then there's the rubbing issue - wider tyres will rub in all sorts of places so consider skinnys.

    If you just want bigger tyres, I'd go for a body lift and custom guard work, cheap and simple (compared to lifting IFS). Add a locker and it'll go much futher.

    If you want to tackle gnarly rocky stuff, you NEED at least one diff locker and consider a proper 3" lift as described in the suspension guide thread (you might be able to get 3.5"). That way your articulation is improved, and the wheels have a better chance of being where they should be for traction (on the ground). Then add the body lift and custom guard work and you'll be a happy camper. http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...-upgrade-guide
    glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90

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    • #3
      Found this pic of a prado running 35's. Can be done but as said, thered be a bit of work involved.
      33's look big enough on the 90 series I reckon.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by g.t View Post
        Found this pic of a prado running 35's. Can be done but as said, thered be a bit of work involved.
        33's look big enough on the 90 series I reckon.
        Wow there's some serious body lift in that.
        And I agree, 33's are as far as I'd push a Prado, maybe a touch more, but not 35's. Either way I'd love to see what can be done.
        glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90

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        • #5
          What I've read too, Glen is totally right!!

          My favorites tires sizes are 235/85 and 255/85. I like 34x9.5 or 34x10.5 too, but the 90% os those tires are for pure off roaders.

          35" is a big tire, high and wide. With larger tires can be achieved more height differentials and that's a very good advantage. 255/85 and 34x9.5 are skinny tires. I think skinny tires are better because they are lighter and put less stress on the front. I have a 235/85 ( 32" ) and Im very happy. With 235/85 my 90 is very agile and goes almost everywhere and I'm pretty sure with 255/85 also.

          For big tires: 2.5" Suspension kit + 2" body lift minimum ( it`s better that way to avoid high cv's angles ), regear, etc.

          I don't like strut spacers. They put strees on the shocks and the suspension becomes very hard.

          Cheers!!
          Prado RZJ90. OME 881 coils Nitrocharger Sport shocks front, 80 Series front coils & rear 80 series Tokico shocks rear, 255/85R16 Cooper Discoverer ST, Viper rocksliders, parking brake cable rear axle bracket, extended rear brake line, extended diff breathers, headers, engine perfomance mods, soon LR upper control arms, ARB rear locker in the future.

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          • #6
            You could try 305/70/16, are these actually any bigger ( taller ) than 285/75/16 though?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by g.t View Post
              You could try 305/70/16, are these actually any bigger ( taller ) than 285/75/16 though?
              Mathmatically the same height (32.8")
              I'd rather go skinny and gain a tad height: 255/85R16 (33.1")
              glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90

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              • #8
                So if 255/85 are 33.1" then what are 270/75r16 and 265/75r16 as these are the best three sizes I can gather... Also out of these sizes, which ones would you pick for some play/touring tyres? I'm thinking the 255/85s in an aggressive style
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by lockedup View Post
                  So if 255/85 are 33.1" then what are 270/75r16 and 265/75r16 as these are the best three sizes I can gather... Also out of these sizes, which ones would you pick for some play/touring tyres? I'm thinking the 255/85s in an aggressive style
                  Mathmatical sizes are:
                  265/70R16 = 30.6"
                  265/75R16 = 31.6"
                  235/85R16 = 31.7"
                  270/75R16 = 31.9"
                  305/70/16 = 32.8"
                  285/75/16 = 32.8"
                  255/85R16 = 33.1"
                  (using http://www.onlineconversion.com/tire...conversion.htm)

                  I say mathmatical because different brands/models come in different sizes. There can be up to 10mm difference between different model 265/75's.

                  - I'd recommend 265/75R16 for all round play and touring. It's the most common size for lightly modified Prados and Patrols so replacements will come easy.

                  - 270/75's are too rare for choice and touring, forget them.

                  - 255/85's are much bigger so should be compared with 285/75's instead. They both require more clearance. I'd personally choose the 255's out of the lot, but can't recommend them for you without knowing what you'll use them for.

                  Also, regarding aggressive style tyres... the more the better!! Don't assume mud terrains are only for mud bogging, they definitely outperform AT's in the rough mountain trails that I've been on (rocks/dirt/ruts). But they do require a little care on road and in sand.
                  glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90

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                  • #10
                    thanks for the help guys, i just want to make sure i can go everywhere my brothers 80 goes. so far its prado-2, 80-0.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by McClint View Post
                      thanks for the help guys, i just want to make sure i can go everywhere my brothers 80 goes. so far its prado-2, 80-0.
                      Good going!
                      You'll be alright as long as he doesn't put on 35's and a locker haha
                      glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by glen_ep View Post
                        Good going!
                        You'll be alright as long as he doesn't put on 35's and a locker haha
                        He just ordered a new set of 35's, as for lockers i will get them before he does. (I hope).

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                        • #13
                          IMO if you daily drive the prado or intend to do touring I wouldnt go any bigger then 265x75's. It throws out your fuel economy and gearing which can get annoying especially with a manual 5VZ and 1.7T boat, Trust me - The only fix is changing the diff gears which gets pricey.

                          Diff locks are the best thing you will ever get, you can have 2 identical trucks. One with 35's the other with 31's and FnR lockers, the smaller truck will out drive the larger tyres every time and with less breakages and panel damage.

                          I have done this test before with my 4runner and cousins surf, My 4runner runs TG suspension, shaved SAS, dual transfers with reduction and 36" Iroks. Cuz's Surf was 2"+2" on 33's and still IFS and with just a front locker and rear LSD he could get further thru a certain test track then I, I eventually cheated and flicked a couple of switches and drove up the wall next to him but thats a different story lol.

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                          • #14
                            I think its too big for the daily driving purposes.Brakes will definitely be worse with larger dia tyres on, theres more leverage working against the discs.I decided to go with a 33, and it already seems like a big tire.
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                            • #15
                              got Simex Extreme Trekker 35" on my prado, just lifted the suspension, a little cutting of the body and flares as well as wheel alignment. car suffers alot from it... stoping now is alot harder, accelration is out the window, rubbing on the frame... but when i do the offroad in my area is good as hell...
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