New 2016 Prado 2.8 Pricing

[Prado_Dave]

Collected the 2.8 today. BEAUTIFUL. 50km of city driving, already averaging 9lt per 100km, drives smooth and quiet. Plus the drink holders accept a Corona perfectly!

[neilaction]

How was interior space? It looks like the ranger, but narrow and short on rear space.

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It feels a tad narrower and a tad lower (roof height) but not much. It's still very spacious.
The way the 2nd and 3rd row seats operate gives a lot of flexibility in the load area. As does the Prado of course.

Hard to pick much difference but I didn't have them side by side and I don't own either, yet.

Compared to my 2002 Pathfinder, both are cavernous.

[Symo]

We run a fleet of D4D Prados up north with not a single failure.
And these things do high klms and get hammered.
I'd like to see the actual failure rate and not just unsubstantiated internet chatter.

I can't think of any brand of car can hold a candle to the reputation Toyota has earned with their Landcruiser/Prado/Hilux range over many, many years. Sure every brand has problems from time to time but Toyota's 4wd reputation borders on legendary.

When I still had my patrol I had a chat with a hire car operator who ran a franchise in the CSG sector in west Qld, I was filling up and he pulled in behind and asked how the Patrol was going. I shared my disappointment with the multiple recalls on such an old design, but did enjoy the truck rouged news of the driveline. Especially off road, I then asked him about his GXL 150 loaded with origin fans heading the Brisbane and he said they run more than 50 of the, in both GX and GXL guess, some with mine spec (full interior roll bars, lights, hi viz, elec isolator, first aid, fire extinguishers, bull bar etc) and could praise them enough.

He was driving an ex fleet vehicle and when I asked how reliable they are and he laughed, basically said its the only thing that doesn't go wrong out there. And of course they are abused, badly.

12 months later I had one, and I believe him.


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[Symo]

How was interior space? It looks like the ranger, but narrow and short on rear space.


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[neilaction]

Given how many D4D's are going bang, diff clunk issues etc, not sure you can count on "reputation" anymore !!

We run a fleet of D4D Prados up north with not a single failure.
And these things do high klms and get hammered.
I'd like to see the actual failure rate and not just unsubstantiated internet chatter.

I can't think of any brand of car can hold a candle to the reputation Toyota has earned with their Landcruiser/Prado/Hilux range over many, many years. Sure every brand has problems from time to time but Toyota's 4wd reputation borders on legendary.

[shodown]

It comes down to reputation versus bling.
Now I do love the bling, but for its intended purpose, I think I'll go with reputation.

Given how many D4D's are going bang, diff clunk issues etc, not sure you can count on "reputation" anymore !!

[lst2]

There's plenty of chatter about that says the Everest isn't really a competitor to the Prado.
It's a ute made into a wagon so should be compared to the Colorado and Izuzu MU something or other.

I'm not so sure.
In my opinion it's a lot better than say a Colorado.
Even the top of the range Colorado with leather etc feels comparatively cheap.
Great value maybe but not for me.

I think the Everest is a genuine competition for the Prado.
Similar price and a good vehicle.

When I first saw the Everest in the flesh my immediate thought was yep, this is the car for me.
After spending 45 minutes with it, and spending the afternoon reflecting on it, it's still the Prado by a nose.

It comes down to reputation versus bling.
Now I do love the bling, but for its intended purpose, I think I'll go with reputation.

Cant really put everest(ranger) in same class as prado. As neilaction mention. Competition would be ute based wagon. Mux(dmax), colorado 7 (colorado), fortuner(hilux) and whatever nissan (np300) is bring it out next year. I reckon Everest is trying too hard. Priced not correctly. Same as mux did. Hence why they dropped 10k from first released RRP.

[neilaction]

There's plenty of chatter about that says the Everest isn't really a competitor to the Prado.
It's a ute made into a wagon so should be compared to the Colorado and Izuzu MU something or other.

I'm not so sure.
In my opinion it's a lot better than say a Colorado.
Even the top of the range Colorado with leather etc feels comparatively cheap.
Great value maybe but not for me.

I think the Everest is a genuine competition for the Prado.
Similar price and a good vehicle.

When I first saw the Everest in the flesh my immediate thought was yep, this is the car for me.
After spending 45 minutes with it, and spending the afternoon reflecting on it, it's still the Prado by a nose.

It comes down to reputation versus bling.
Now I do love the bling, but for its intended purpose, I think I'll go with reputation.

[gumboot]

Great feedback . I wish the reviews mentioned things like that. well done


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[Prado_Dave]

Nice review mate

[neilaction]

Comparo

I test drove a Ford Everest today.
It was the middle of the range Trend.

Pros. More car like ergos and a lot more tech stuff. The list of standard stuff is extensive. Some examples are auto headlights, auto windscreen wipers, active cruise control, some sort of lane correction thingy and a myriad or 4wd modes. Some aspects of the interior are very nice. The dash is made of some sort of leather look stuff with highlighted stitching. Flash but might not wear well. The dials are great. One analogue speedo in the middle with 2 colour displays either side. And these 2 displays can display an enormous amount of information. Some of it actually useful. That's on top of the 8" display in the centre of the console. I much prefer a standard tailgate than the barn door of a Prado, and the Everest is electric. There's no doubt you get a lot of bang for your buck compared to a Prado.

Cons. Not as quiet as I imagined it would be. Hard to know for sure but I think its nosier than the new 2.8 Prado. Some of the plastic inside feels a bit cheap. Again hard to know for sure but the suspension felt harsher. You felt bumps more than in a Prado. Cabin space seemed a bit smaller. No long range fuel tanks. Its a Ford.

Overall I liked it. I looks good and drives very nicely. They will sell heaps I reckon.

Some things are odd.
For example, the interior of a Prado looks a bit cheap but when you sit in it the Prado is super comfy.
The Ford on the other hand looks a bit nicer but when you sit in it the Everest feels cheap, or at least not as comfy.
I think that's mainly the seats.

Some things in the Ford are ridiculously over the top.
For example, you can adjust the temperature by either turning the temperature knob, entering the climate controls on the 8" touch screen, by using the controls on the steering wheel or by voice command. Why? There's a few things like that, very hi tech but do I need it?

I was quoted $66k for a Trend with metallic, sat nav, towbar, mats, boot liner, drive away.

The test drive did 2 things for me.
1. It made me slightly annoyed that the MY16 Prado is so bereft of technology.
2. It made me curious to see the new Fortuner.

Was it enough to sway me?
Watch this space...... 8-)

[neilaction]

Sounds like someone who just won lotto

Nah, he'd have bought a Kakadu.

[lst2]

Ha! I wish. First holiday this year, first brand new car in 14 years!

Sounds like someone who just won lotto

[Prado_Dave]

Ha! I wish. First holiday this year, first brand new car in 14 years!

[neilaction]

Ours is ready Tuesday morning. Gives me about 3 hours of play before I fly out to Bali....should be a great day!

Doing it tough Dave?