Chastising

[fishfinder Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close fishfinder]

I read this thread and obviously this person is,as said new to the forum and new to the 4wd's and I thought his questions where fair questions and I too did a quick search on his questions and did not come up with a result but why jump down these new peoples throat ? and then close the thread for further comments ? umm seriously is this not getting a little petty ??? there was all this click here and click there to read the rules but not one place as to where to click pointing this person to where this topic may have been covered ... I have noticed some of the older pp members are slowly visiting less frequently or not at all , could this as I see it "forum bullying" be the reason ? one of the rules from the forum etiquette rules 25. Do not chastise newbies. You were one once.

Practice and preach mean anything ???
So in future rather than nit picking directly to a persons thread if you have something to say how about a polite pm sent to them makes this Pp scene a little friendlier

[kav Avid PP Poster! Find all posts View Profile Close kav]

i hear ya . been guilty myself .

[AJ120 Out of control poster! Find all posts View Profile Close AJ120]

I pressume you are refering to this thread http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...-Beach-Driving that I replied to when i posted this

1. familiarise yourself with the search function, here is a start for you http://www.pradopoint.com/search.php?searchid=558761

2. read the rules here http://www.pradopoint.com/forumdisplay.php?130-Rules
this one in particular http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...read-me-first-!

3. It is considered good manners to at least introuce yourself before asking a heap of questions. Introduce yourself here http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...=introductions

4. Enjoy the forum

Cheers Andrew

I am not sure why the first link doesn't work but that was supposed to go to a search I did that showed about 20 threads on sand driving, which is what the thread was about, my apologies for the link not working.

Forums are common place nowadays, there is a forum for just about everything, they all have rules and most of the rules follow a similar theme, search, meaningful thread titles etc etc. If you are not familiar with the rules of an organisation you join then you should be, so I simply provided a link so the poster could get some info that he obviously needed.

Why is it that on the internet someone can walk into a forum and start barreling questions at people with out even putting there hand out and introducing themselves (so to speak)? It would be considered good manners in the real world, so why is it different here?

And quite deliberatly I suggested they enjoy the forum, just to finish on an upbeat note and to let them know I was not having a go, I was just trying to help.

No pun intended Fishfinder, but whats the old saying, give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach him to fish and he eats every day! I have said it many times before to newbies, search and read; and you will find answers to questions you never even knew to ask.

As for long term members leaving or no longer participating, I am sure they all have there reasons, I no doubt will one day fade of into the distance like others, and new members will come along and add heaps to the forum. I will probably leave when I finally get sick of answering the same questions over and over again for every second person who joins and starts a new thread asking a question I have answered a dozen times before I don't see that what I posted is in anyway bullying, I was just trying to help, unfortunately the first link not working may have skewed that view a bit.

As for the PM, I have done that on many many occasions, I no longer do this, while most people reply with a, thanks mate I didn't know type of response, a few replied with messages that would make a wharfy blush, so I figure better to put it on line, if they reply in a positive way then we all know they are a good bloke and can look after them, if they reply with abuse, we know to ignore them.

Cheers Andrew

[Richoson Avid PP Poster! Find all posts View Profile Close Richoson]

I agree that chastising is not a good thing but I have a saying that use at work " there is no such thing as a stupid question, it only becomes stupid when asked the third time".

As for the search engine I find it to be ineffective when I have tried to use it

See ya on the tracks, Richo.


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[photoprado Avid PP Poster! Find all posts View Profile Close photoprado]

I agree with fishfinder.

You guys might be right about the rules, searching, and asking the same question multiple times, but this poor sod didn't get a very friendly welcome to the forum as a result did he, whilst a couple of us got to polish our forum 'rule enforcer' badges.

Richo, you can generally get better search on PP via google using the site: modifier. Try typing this into the google search box:

sand driving site:pradopoint.com

Cheers

[AJ120 Out of control poster! Find all posts View Profile Close AJ120]

As for the search engine I find it to be ineffective when I have tried to use it

The search function seems to be working much better lately

I agree with fishfinder.

whilst a couple of us got to polish our forum 'rule enforcer' badges.

Cheers

He asked for advice, I gave him what I considered to be the best advice I could, I wasn't rude, I didn't swear, I didn't tell him to piss off, just good natured advise on how to get the best out of the forum. If that is somehow seen as beeing rude, or offensive, or bullying then I am guilty as charged.

If he takes what I wrote in the way it was intended, and follows the advice he will learn far more in a shorter time frame than he ever would by 10 different people replying to his post offering varying advise.

Practice and preach mean anything ???
So in future rather than nit picking directly to a persons thread if you have something to say how about a polite pm sent to them makes this Pp scene a little friendlier

And finally, isnt it ironic the statement above, I never recieved a PM to say "hey that was a bit harsh mate" nope start a thread and have a go at people who are genuinly trying to help. That'll make the scene friendlier

No hard feelings guys, just telling it as I see it.

Cheers Andrew

[winniliss Avid PP Poster! Find all posts View Profile Close winniliss]

I find the search option on this forum to be a waste of time. Even when you type in the exact wording of the thread title it doesn't show up. I just keep reverting back to Google.

[AJ120 Out of control poster! Find all posts View Profile Close AJ120]

I find the search option on this forum to be a waste of time. Even when you type in the exact wording of the thread title it doesn't show up. I just keep reverting back to Google.

Try advanced search then type the thread tilte or part thereof into the keywords text box, then select thread titles only from the drop down box next to it. Thats what I did for the search I provided (that the link didn't work for), I put sand driving into the text box and up came a heap of threads on the subject.

3 months ago I would have said don't waste your time, but it has improved from my experience.

Cheers Andrew

[tassie tiger Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close tassie tiger]

Google search with pradopoint in the text. Works best IMO.

[winniliss Avid PP Poster! Find all posts View Profile Close winniliss]

Try advanced search then type the thread tilte or part thereof into the keywords text box, then select thread titles only from the drop down box next to it. Thats what I did for the search I provided (that the link didn't work for), I put sand driving into the text box and up came a heap of threads on the subject.

3 months ago I would have said don't waste your time, but it has improved from my experience.

Cheers Andrew

It is getting better and I do use the advance option but a better option would be when you type something in the search box at the top of the webpage (not in the advance search page) it only searches threat titles only. This would help newer people and minimize unnecessary threads.

[JoshF Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close JoshF]

maybe it is just me, but it sounds like the forum needs another sticky which gives advice a guidance of the optimised ways to search the forum to get the best results??

There are a number of methods described above and to a novice they may not know and therefore get less than useful results

[alternative Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close alternative]

I find the search option on this forum to be a waste of time. Even when you type in the exact wording of the thread title it doesn't show up. I just keep reverting back to Google.

Agree, the search on here is useless.

Hey AJ, do yous "warm and fuzzy" members get a special search that works ?

[AJ120 Out of control poster! Find all posts View Profile Close AJ120]

Agree, the search on here is useless.

Hey AJ, do yous "warm and fuzzy" members get a special search that works ?

Nah, it improved before I got my warm fussy feeling, eversince the forum upgrade? around Easter last year it wasn't picking up any threads that hadn't been posted in since the upgrade, I triead a search a month or 2 ago and it pulled up threads that hadn't been active since 2006, I have used it a number or times since and it has been good. Google is also a good option, but requires you to type another word, typing can be bloody hard work

with all the recent changes maybe the powers will look at this one as well.

Getting back to the original topic of this thread, when people register it would be useful if they recieved an automatic email pointing out the basics ie. link to rules thread, introductions thread, advice on how to search etc etc. I know I got an email like that when I joined the Newhilux forum, should be pretty easy to do I would have thought.

Cheers Andrew

[fishfinder Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close fishfinder]

I have .....

[pradi2 Member Find all posts View Profile Close pradi2]

jees i started a thread about prado point chat betta do some more research next time before i start a thread.admin please close that thread...