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  • #31
    You can watch footage of surfers carving up the waves with no comment but if a hapless fisherman goes overboard just beyond the surf line they're lucky to survive their excursion into shark infested waters.
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    • #32
      Same type of thing applies to anything that happens with a firearm.

      They like to use the terms 'high powered' - one recently where they used this term, it involved a .22 rimfire. The other favorite if something involves a scoped rifle, it is automatically classed as a 'sniper rifle'. Or better yet, the deadly combination of the two... 'a High Powered Sniper Rifle' They are so vicious they jump up and start shooting people all on their own!!

      Also, they always call the weapons, which they are not.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Sako85 View Post
        Same type of thing applies to anything that happens with a firearm.

        They like to use the terms 'high powered' - one recently where they used this term, it involved a .22 rimfire. The other favorite if something involves a scoped rifle, it is automatically classed as a 'sniper rifle'. Or better yet, the deadly combination of the two... 'a High Powered Sniper Rifle' They are so vicious they jump up and start shooting people all on their own!!

        Also, they always call the weapons, which they are not.
        Firearms are not weapons?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Bushbasher View Post
          And every vacuum cleaner is a Hoover.
          And every piece of plastic wrap is 'Gladwrap.'

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          • #35
            And every piece of engineering plastic is "Perspex."

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            • #36
              And we call every cooler box an 'Esky', gypsum wall boards 'Gyprock', hardboard 'Masonite', all brand names.
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              • #37
                And the P plate sign from every p plater crash just happens to leave the car and pose for the cameras in the foreground of the shot.
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                • #38
                  When the media jumps up and down when someone who is an Aboriginal gets called a stinking Abo , and it's racial vilification . Would it be better if he was called an odiferous f#*¥ing indigenous person
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Beach View Post
                    Firearms are not weapons?
                    No.

                    Is a rav 4 a 4wd? Different things designed for different purposes.

                    A weapon IMO is designed to kill humans quickly and efficiently. http://m.dictionary.com/definition/weapon

                    You are very unlikely to see anything other than hunting rifles/shotguns in this country the way it is regulated.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Sako85 View Post
                      No.

                      A weapon IMO is designed to kill humans quickly and efficiently. http://m.dictionary.com/definition/weapon
                      All firearms are weapons. Not all weapons are firearms

                      A firearm is defined in section 4 of the Firearms Act 1996 "as a gun or other weapon that is or was at any time, capable of propelling a projectile by means of an explosive and includes blank fire firearms and air guns".

                      (Doesn't include nail guns, line throwers etc)
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by r4ndll View Post
                        All firearms are weapons. Not all weapons are firearms

                        A firearm is defined in section 4 of the Firearms Act 1996 "as a gun or other weapon that is or was at any time, capable of propelling a projectile by means of an explosive and includes blank fire firearms and air guns".

                        (Doesn't include nail guns, line throwers etc)

                        Correct.


                        Plenty of things out there that would make a good weapon (and will kill).

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Sako85 View Post
                          No.

                          Is a rav 4 a 4wd? Different things designed for different purposes.

                          A weapon IMO is designed to kill humans quickly and efficiently. http://m.dictionary.com/definition/weapon

                          You are very unlikely to see anything other than hunting rifles/shotguns in this country the way it is regulated.
                          I've never seen a firearm, rifle or pistol, that I would describe as anything other than, as a weapon. I'm curious as to what firearms don't fall under this description?

                          Yes, A RAV4 is a four wheel drive, if it has motive power supplied to all four wheels. The same as the various models of Subaru, Honda Prelude, Audi, etc.

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                          • #43
                            Depends on jurisdiction. NSW says "does not include anything declared by the regulations not to be a firearm". Go figure!

                            VIC: (c) an industrial tool powered by cartridges containing gunpowder or compressed air or other gases which is designed and intended for use for fixing fasteners or plugs or for similar purposes; or

                            (d) a captive bolt humane killer; or

                            (e) a spear gun designed for underwater use; or

                            (f) a device designed for the discharge of signal flares; or

                            * * * * *

                            (h) a device commonly known as a kiln gun or ringblaster, designed specifically for knocking out or down solid material in kilns, furnaces or cement silos; or

                            (i) a device commonly known as a line thrower designed for establishing lines between structures or natural features and powered by compressed air to other compressed gases and used for rescue purposes, rescue training or rescue demonstration; or

                            (j) a device of a prescribed class;
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                            • #44
                              The media just pisses me off period or more to the point their lack professionalism and ignorance.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Sako85 View Post
                                No.

                                Is a rav 4 a 4wd? Different things designed for different purposes.

                                A weapon IMO is designed to kill humans quickly and efficiently. http://m.dictionary.com/definition/weapon

                                You are very unlikely to see anything other than hunting rifles/shotguns in this country the way it is regulated.
                                Sako, on your supplied definition, weapon includes firearms as they can be used to attack another person. A firearm is a firearm until it is used against someone else, then it becomes a weapon.

                                Beach you mentioned earlier that no cop likes to be told their wrong, I think this would go for anyone, not just cops.

                                What I love about the media is the use of the word 'alleged'. They need to be coached in the use of this. For example; 'a murder allegedly took place at such and such address'. The murder (someone was killed by someone else) actually took place so it's not alleged, when someone is charged and before they are convicted it is then that they allegedly murdered that person. I couldn't agree more with everyone, having had a lot to do with the media previously I do know that they generally live for sensationalism, anything that they perceive the public would like to hear, they will grab it and run, hence 4wd when AWD would be more appropriate, bikie when it should be motorcyclist, etc.

                                As a former 4wd instructor with the Police, our definition of 4wd for permits was anything fitted with a transfer case, so for a long time Foresters were included but X-Trails and Rav4s weren't.
                                Common sense isn't that common.....

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