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    G'day Everyone,

    Well im hoping to have a comparison between Diesel and Petrol Prados, Find out benifits, Why choose one over the other. Now please don't turn this into a Holden V Ford debate which generally ends up in people saying the one they own is best because they just are.

    What made you choose your type of engine?

    Does one last alot longer then the other?

    Is one better for 4wdrivng?

    I understand Petrol will use more fuel per 100klm but at the bowswer in Brisbane its 20 Cents a litre cheaper so shoudlnt it equal out?

    Do people service petrol less then diesel? But should they still do oil every 5000klms?

    If your life style consists of mostly road driving but occasional weekend to fraser or double island (sand driving) would a petrol be more user friendly?

    Are repairs cheaper one one rather then the other?

    These any many more questions.....So if you have the time I would really love to hear from you all about these! Im about to buy a Prado and choosing type is getting hard ! So please let me know what you think.

    Regards,

    Rob

  • #2
    I would probably suggest that you utilise the search button to search for your subjects, as the Diesel VS Petrol debate and all the other questions have been done many times before on this forum.
    Try different searches and looking thru the different areas, the info is vast and already there.

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    • #3
      marto the 4 ltr v6 is a great motor, really responsive has good power and torque, great on the beach, good for towing and overtaking, like any engine it will guzzle if ya bury ya foot to the firewall, especially in soft sand low range. the d4d is also an excellent motor it has great power and class leading torque, great for towing and overtaking, some guys on the forum here have done trips towing campers and vans and still return 11l/100km or better, i have the old 1kz diesel and it is a good motor as well, while it doesnt have the power and torque of the d4d it goes well and returns good fuel figures. as to servicing the v6 is every 10k, the d4d is 10k and the old 1kz i do mine every 5k. fuel consumption the v6 will return around 13l/100km if ya gentle on the throttle on a trip, give you a range of around 1000km, the d4d will give ya about 10l/100km and range of around 1500km+ and the old 1kz will give ya around 11l/100km and a range of around 1300km+. the more accessories ya put ya economy will vary abit. cheers samo
      had an 03 gx 120 with some gear now got a 2013 bt 50 GT auto some ARB gear.

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      • #4
        I think Samo has summed it up very well, there is not a lot to add other than what Team Piggy suggested & do a forum search.
        (You will find a lot of interesting reading)

        Go the D4D the greener vehicle :?:
        Just stirring, :twisted:
        Cheers.
        Fazza
        07 Silver Ash, GXL, D4D, Auto. Lifestyle rear cargo rack. 2500 kg Tow bar with Tekonsha elec brake controller, Rear dust deflector, Mio Sat nav, (Still trying to fault the Dunlop AT20's)

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        • #5
          I will just add, that my v6 Grande returns constant figures in the 10/12 l per 100!
          I get over 1370 out of a tank most times (city).

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          • #6
            It's a good question & one I was about to ask (yes I'm a newbie). I'm currently looking at a new Prado & only yesterday drove a V6 & a diesel back to back.

            I have decided on a V6 as the majority of my driving will be in the city, I found the diesel quite a bit less responsive & underpowered.

            Having read a few threads on this forum it seems the majority favor a diesel, why is that?
            2008 Prado GXL V6 Silver Ash

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            • #7
              In general better fuel consumption and alot better when towing or loaded up.
              2006 TD Grande
              ARB Winch Bar. Rallye 4000's
              GME TX 3400
              BF Goodrich 265/65/17

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Fazza
                I think Samo has summed it up very well
                Spot on.

                Cheers
                Chippy

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ChrisD
                  It's a good question & one I was about to ask (yes I'm a newbie). I'm currently looking at a new Prado & only yesterday drove a V6 & a diesel back to back.

                  I have decided on a V6 as the majority of my driving will be in the city, I found the diesel quite a bit less responsive & underpowered.

                  Having read a few threads on this forum it seems the majority favor a diesel, why is that?
                  Hey Chris,

                  I am just wondering what you are trading to get the Prado. I recently have owned HSV's, SS's, and a WRX. I drove the D4D and was amazed at the responsiveness of the engine. I was also impressed with the smoothness and the "seat of the pants" feeling. I test drove a new TD Navara a few months ago also and was amazed how much more "grunt" the D4D Prado had even though the power and torque figure were fairly similar.

                  A lot of people tend to just sink the boot into a turbo diesel. They prefer to be "squeezed" on so that the exhaust can spool the turbo more efficiently. A bit of a lesson I learnt from the WRX!

                  Which ever you decide, I know you are going to have a ball with it though! They are a great car!
                  [b]2013 GXL LC200 TTV8[/b]
                  TJM Alloy Bullbar
                  Towing a Jayco Expanda 17.56-2OB

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                  • #10
                    Guys, don't forget that V6 Petrol on LPG could be even more economical
                    than D4D Prado. :twisted: The only negative is that you have to feel up
                    twice as often...
                    [color=blue][url=http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?12128-2004-120-GXL-V6-Petrol-Buildup-*Warning-Picture-Heavy!*&highlight=picture+heavy][b]My Prado Buildiup Since 2004[/b][/url][/color]
                    [b]2004 120 GXL V6 4sp Auto D694 LTs and MTRs with Kevlar (best of both worlds )[/b]

                    [url=http://www.fuelly.com/driver/lc120man/prado][img]http://www.fuelly.com/smallsig-metric/48063.png[/img][/url]

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                    • #11
                      Re: Petrol V Diesel

                      Originally posted by Marto

                      maybe answering each question will give a good summary, of one persons view

                      What made you choose your type of engine?
                      had a petrol 120, loved it
                      wanted the off road value of the new D4d without overly sacrificing street use


                      Does one last alot longer then the other?
                      Wouldnt think so

                      Is one better for 4wdrivng?
                      IMO, yes, the diesel gives significantly more control, useable torque and engine braking
                      I understand Petrol will use more fuel per 100klm but at the bowswer in Brisbane its 20 Cents a litre cheaper so shoudlnt it equal out?

                      Reckon youre about right

                      Do people service petrol less then diesel? But should they still do oil every 5000klms?

                      Jurys out in my view, 10k servcies are a worry for an oil burner

                      If your life style consists of mostly road driving but occasional weekend to fraser or double island (sand driving) would a petrol be more user friendly?

                      Absolutely, petrol rools on sand and around town

                      Are repairs cheaper one one rather then the other?
                      Probably petrol, more based on gut instinct
                      ,

                      Rob

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Hubble80
                        Originally posted by ChrisD
                        It's a good question & one I was about to ask (yes I'm a newbie). I'm currently looking at a new Prado & only yesterday drove a V6 & a diesel back to back.

                        I have decided on a V6 as the majority of my driving will be in the city, I found the diesel quite a bit less responsive & underpowered.

                        Having read a few threads on this forum it seems the majority favor a diesel, why is that?
                        Hey Chris,

                        I am just wondering what you are trading to get the Prado.
                        I'm trading a MY06 STI Impreza, so I realise I'm getting out of something that does 0-100 in well under 5 secs into something very different. However I was just a little disappointed in the feel of the diesel, I was just hoping I'd drive both & be happy with either. The V6 seemed reasonably powerful. I guess the diesel has other distinct advantages for those that go off road or tow.
                        2008 Prado GXL V6 Silver Ash

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                        • #13
                          Re: Petrol V Diesel

                          Originally posted by xvprado
                          Originally posted by Marto

                          maybe answering each question will give a good summary, of one persons view

                          What made you choose your type of engine?
                          had a petrol 120, loved it
                          wanted the off road value of the new D4d without overly sacrificing street use plus there are distinct advantages when towing with the D4D i reckon


                          Does one last alot longer then the other?
                          Wouldnt think so

                          Is one better for 4wdrivng?
                          IMO, yes, the diesel gives significantly more control, useable torque and engine braking
                          I understand Petrol will use more fuel per 100klm but at the bowswer in Brisbane its 20 Cents a litre cheaper so shoudlnt it equal out?

                          Reckon youre about right

                          Do people service petrol less then diesel? But should they still do oil every 5000klms?

                          Jurys out in my view, 10k servcies are a worry for an oil burner

                          If your life style consists of mostly road driving but occasional weekend to fraser or double island (sand driving) would a petrol be more user friendly?

                          Absolutely, petrol rools on sand and around town

                          Are repairs cheaper one one rather then the other?
                          Probably petrol, more based on gut instinct
                          ,

                          Rob

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                          • #14
                            I have a 120 petrol and love it. My other 2 Prados (Series 90's) were petrol. Did not consider diesel as the new diesel motor was not available at time of purchase and the old one was just too slow for me. I had a test of a new diesel a few weeks ago as it's nearly time for changeover and am not overly impressed with performance so I'll probably stick with another petrol. I don't need a snorkel. I don't need to line up for the diesel bowser at the Woollies station when there are 4 unleaded bowsers free. I don't need to worry about fuel costs too much (business vehicle). My 120 is quiet, very responsive and cheap to maintain, even at a Toyota dealer. If fuel consumption is that important (it's a 2 tonne vehicle so get over it): I average around 12.5l/km with lots of highway driving and a bit of boat towing.
                            2012 GXL Diesel Auto.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by whiteman
                              If fuel consumption is that important (it's a 2 tonne vehicle so get over it)
                              This for me is the crux of any argument on fuel consumption diesel or Petrol. IMHO
                              2003 V6 GXL, Mickey Thompson MTZ's, Safari Snorkel, ARB Winch Bar, OME Suspension 2" lift, GME TX3420

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