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  • #16
    Re: Site changes

    Originally posted by D4D
    Originally posted by photoprado
    I don't have a lot of problem using http from known networks though. There is a much smaller risk. Public networks like coffee shops and internet cafe's have much greater potential for sniffing and compromised machines.
    Yup public wireless is a smorgasbord of usernames and passwords. The other problem is most people use the same password all the time. Hence if I have your PP password, I may well have your online banking password.
    Part of having internet security is to have a different password for each site/application, not doing so goes against all recommendations from the large financial institutions and big business. I for one have a different password for everything, get one of mine - and you only have access to the one system. this is more a personal security issue than a security issue for PP. The site admin would endevour to maintain a secure site, i am sure, but each individual user is responsible for their own security - protection and variation of all passwords, location of use, security of access point, security updates for PCs, the list goes on.

    However, I will agree that HTTPS is more secure than HTTP, but unless financial transactions are included within the web content of a site then I think that it is inherently over-kill...

    I'm not an admin or a mod, but i don't think it is fair to say that because now i have to log on to PP, if my PP password gets hacked then it the hacker has my banking password cos they are the same? We cannot hold someone else responsible for our own lack of personal security...
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    • #17
      Re: Site changes

      Since everyone else is posting up what they think, I may as well also. I have no problem with the new way the site is, honestly..... how hard is it to log on to see what is being posted, it will also build up the membership of this community and thus create new friendships that may not have happened if the site was the way it was.
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      • #18
        Re: Site changes

        Originally posted by Matty & Loz
        Originally posted by D4D
        Originally posted by photoprado
        I don't have a lot of problem using http from known networks though. There is a much smaller risk. Public networks like coffee shops and internet cafe's have much greater potential for sniffing and compromised machines.
        I'm not an admin or a mod, but i don't think it is fair to say that because now i have to log on to PP, if my PP password gets hacked then it the hacker has my banking password cos they are the same? We cannot hold someone else responsible for our own lack of personal security...
        I'm not suggesting we apportion blame at all, I just think its an imposition on members and a potential security risk to require them to logon to view the site when they are away from known networks.

        People log onto internet banking via dodgy networks all the time. Part of the reason its not as bad a risk as it might otherwise be is https. This has nothing to do with personal password standards.

        Michael
        2008 D4D M6 GXL [MT ATZ-P3][Whitey's Ironman 45710FE/45682FE+KTFR101H/Dob487][extended Roadsafe links][Polyairs][DBA T3/T2][amts diffdrop & recovery points][Tin175's stone guards][Bushskins BashPlate][ARB Sahara][IPF 900s][Snorkel][WindCheetah][MaxTrax][IC-440][Parrot Asteroid][ARB Fridge][Lifestyle 2nd Row Fridge Mount][ARB Compressor][Thumper][SandGrabbers][Cargo Barrier][Tigerz Awning][MCC Rear Bar]

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        • #19
          Re: Site changes

          Originally posted by croozza
          Since everyone else is posting up what they think, I may as well also. I have no problem with the new way the site is, honestly..... how hard is it to log on to see what is being posted, it will also build up the membership of this community and thus create new friendships that may not have happened if the site was the way it was.
          Agree!!
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          • #20
            Re: Site changes

            To clarify my point re auth, this is a phpBB problem not specific to PP
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            • #21
              Re: Site changes

              Exactly to the last few posters, and this problem existed BEFORE the changes were put into trial. If you wanted to post you had to log on...

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              • #22
                Re: Site changes

                Originally posted by Team Piggy
                If you wanted to post you had to log on...
                No problem with that, but if you just wanted to catch up, you didn't have to logon. That was a reasonable thing to do in potentially unsafe networks, but no longer.

                Originally posted by Team Piggy
                ppl google it, come in as a guest and scrape the info they need, then dissapear.
                The existing content on PP was given by members on that basis - anyone can view member or not. That content is now locked away.

                Just sayin'

                Michael
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                • #23
                  Re: Site changes

                  Originally posted by photoprado
                  Originally posted by Team Piggy
                  If you wanted to post you had to log on...
                  No problem with that, but if you just wanted to catch up, you didn't have to logon. That was a reasonable thing to do in potentially unsafe networks, but no longer.
                  I always used to be logged on and then look at the recent posts from time to time. Becomes very easy to see what is going on by clicking on the link titled "View new posts" at the top of the main fourm page.
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                  • #24
                    Re: Site changes

                    Guys, I think we all need to remember that this site was set up by Aaron as a service to us as passionate Prado loving individuals and no matter what changes the admins or mods want to make we should be all appreciative of the time, effort and costs that go into this site to keep it running and move on.
                    After all, it really is only on loan to us from Aaron.
                    [b]Rob[/b]

                    [b]2016 Toyota Hilux SR5 D4D Auto Company Cruiser... [/b].
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                    • #25
                      Re: Site changes

                      Originally posted by Hutch
                      Guys, I think we all need to remember that this site was set up by Aaron as a service to us as passionate Prado loving individuals and no matter what changes the admins or mods want to make we should be all appreciative of the time, effort and costs that go into this site to keep it running and move on.
                      After all, it really is only on loan to us from Aaron.
                      Well said mate, agree with you fully!
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                      • #26
                        Re: Site changes

                        Originally posted by Hutch
                        Guys, I think we all need to remember that this site was set up by Aaron as a service to us as passionate Prado loving individuals and no matter what changes the admins or mods want to make we should be all appreciative of the time, effort and costs that go into this site to keep it running and move on.
                        After all, it really is only on loan to us from Aaron.
                        Spot on.. Aaron knows of the changes and is in approval. As said before it may be temporary it may not.. stats and time will tell. We also want to make sure the bots can get in to scrape the site still so thats being worked on.

                        As for not logging in, I woulkd think anyone not using the "new posts" feature is missing out or very patient in looking at the forum pages !

                        There will be some more word on the "upgrade" in the next few days I think. Possibly seeing a forum change by christmas. this will mean a lot more features for everyone as well.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Site changes

                          Originally posted by Team Piggy
                          As for not logging in, I woulkd think anyone not using the "new posts" feature is missing out or very patient in looking at the forum pages !
                          If you were not logged in 'view new posts' was replaced with 'view active topics' so it was pretty easy to quickly stay up to date without having to login. For a reason unknown to me and only on PP I cannot auto login. Doesn't matter what computer/browser/OS/chair I use it just won't work. Therefore the 'view active topics' was good as I could review the posts and login if I needed to reply.
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                          • #28
                            Re: Site changes

                            Originally posted by D4D
                            If you were not logged in 'view new posts' was replaced with 'view active topics' so it was pretty easy to quickly stay up to date without having to login. For a reason unknown to me and only on PP I cannot auto login. Doesn't matter what computer/browser/OS/chair I use it just won't work. Therefore the 'view active topics' was good as I could review the posts and login if I needed to reply.

                            I'm in the same boat as you D4D, automatic login doesn't for me. I also find the view active topics button useful and I would log in if I wanted to reply. Makes life easier.
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                            • #29
                              Re: Site changes

                              I'm using Chrome on Win7 and auto login works for me. Cant for the life of me get it to work on IE.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Site changes

                                Originally posted by MickL

                                EDIT - Started/moved thread here to discuss site changes and answer questions.
                                I don't know how far the changes will go and I don't mean to start up a wish list and I know I mentioned this before, but will the owners/administrators/moderators consider implementing a mandatory requirement that all new members must insert a meaningful location in their profile and complete an introduction. It gets a bit annoying when a new members first post is for help on a vehicle issue and you don't even know if they are in the same side of the hemisphere. I know another phpBB forum has this system but I don't know if it is an automatic action or manually controlled but you can't post until you complete an introduction. Also I think you need to post an introduction within a cetain period of membership approval (2 weeks or so).

                                I have considered applying for the New Members Approval (to possibly assist with my comment above) or For Sale moderators position but I lack the phpBB knowledge. It would be good to give back to the forum as I get so much out of it.

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