Toyota - Oh what a fleeing!

[kav Avid PP Poster! Find all posts View Profile Close kav]

The only car that Toyota produce in AUS is the Camry . A vehicle that is mainly bought for sales reps or by retirees . Good car but not what Aussies want . We can't blame Abbott for the closures of manufacturing in this country . Manufacturing can't survive when the workers are earning more money than some professional careers .neither can they survive when having to fork out for 6 months or weeks maternity or paternity leave plus all the loadings and holidays we insist on . In case people think its only happening in manufacturing , it's been happening in the building industry for years , with cheaper imported workers .

[Bazza Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Bazza]

The previous Government is responsible for a lot of what is now happening. They sold of public infrastructure, got into bed with the extreme Greens, allowed taxes, rego's, insurance's etc ..... to sky rocket, effectively forcing the cost of living to what it is now. Workers are seeking higher wages just to keep their heads above water. Loosing car manufacturing is just the start. I see a depression/recession coming to this country that will cripple us.

[Anth120playdo Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Anth120playdo]

Hello all,

We who do not work in the auto industry should look at ourselves and our jobs, wont be long before we are all out of work because we cost too much and then we wont have cash to buy anything, either locally made or imported. Canberra produces nothing at all, why do we buy their spin on whats good for us.

If Tony gets his act together he should be able to come up with an idea and not simply an ideology to keep the country solvent. He seems to know how to shut down industry but no idea on what comes next.

I dont know what to do, thats why we have leaders. Perhaps we need better leaders.

regards

Ross

That's right, always striking & unions about getting more money, plenty workers out the door on a smoko every 15 minutes, piss poor efficiency! Plenty other bludgers too. (Yes I hate cigarettes)
Then buy some cheap Kia or Hyundai, because well easy come easy go, blew most of the cash each week on crap so couldn't see the value in affording a decent vehicle.

We have a Camry in the garage! Before that I have owned dozens of falcons.
Most people don't know how good these camrys & think they don't want or need one $26990 driveway? Bargain! I'm not going on about why they are so good. Just go get your Kia or something, everyone else is.

Go on Aussie, keep asking for more money & doing your job slowly......

What a waste of all that cash our stupid governments threw at these huge multinational companies.......

Piss poor management by ALL!!! Like usual.

Sook over! :-)

[MidLifeCrisis Out of control poster! Find all posts View Profile Close MidLifeCrisis]

It was only a matter of time given the exit of Holden and Ford. The parts suppliers would also have either been pulling the pin or raising their prices to cover the dwindling customer base. Not sure what those suppliers are all going to do now unless they diversify or can develop new export markets.

Given us Prado owners drive Japanese made cars we can hardly complain. I feel for the workers and their families though, thousands of new jobs don't just magically appear overnight.

I echo your words Fido. If the govt loses this now redundant tax itwill replace it with an appropriately worded one such as "The Australian manufacturing "rebalancing" or "new initiative" tax" or better still LEVY!They will collect say $500 per vehicle on the 1,000,000 new vehicles sold every year giving 1/2 billion per annum. As is always the case it will go to consolidated revenue and 5 mill will be allocated out EVERY year to assistance in new manufacturing ventures!!!!! that will employ 8 new workers!!!!!! PER ANNUM.

The balance will replace that stupid mining tax and Carbon tax

mlc - unofficial non advisor to Govt.

[MidLifeCrisis Out of control poster! Find all posts View Profile Close MidLifeCrisis]

And they are both crap.

I thought the Hilux was made there too?

[Anth120playdo Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Anth120playdo]

I thought the Hilux was made there too?

Yes hiluxes are Thailand.

Not sure about the side by side manufacturing talk?

An example of side by side would be bt50 & ranger, they are manufactured side by side as the are mostly the same.

[MidLifeCrisis Out of control poster! Find all posts View Profile Close MidLifeCrisis]

Well I cannot complain about Thai supplied Hilux washer jets or bonnet scoops

In fact the Lux is a great product. Guess it really means who is in control of what happens in said country.

[yowie Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close yowie]

I don't think much blame can be levelled at Abbott. The closure of Toyota, Holden & Ford have been in the pipeline for at least 3 years. The main problem impacting them is the cost of labour. From information I have, the workplace entitlements have blown out, to be much higher than is found in other industries - things like paid days off every couple of weeks etc. The union was asked to back down on some of the entitlements, and refused. The blame here lies squarely on greedy unionists, not on the government.

Agree with this.

My father was the floor manager of a business many years ago in western Sydney, kept the union out of the business, made sure that everyone received decent wages and the business made good money. Once he eventually left to set up his own business, the union moved in and the business eventually folded.

[r4ndll Avid PP Poster! Find all posts View Profile Close r4ndll]

Yes hiluxes are Thailand.

Not sure about the side by side manufacturing talk?

An example of side by side would be bt50 & ranger, they are manufactured side by side as the are mostly the same.

Well I cannot complain about Thai supplied Hilux washer jets or bonnet scoops

In fact the Lux is a great product. Guess it really means who is in control of what happens in said country.

Aren't they mostly made by automated production lines now anyway? Should be very little differences in quality between Toyota Robots in Australia or Toyota Robots in Thailand.

Agree with this.

My father was the floor manager of a business many years ago in western Sydney, kept the union out of the business, made sure that everyone received decent wages and the business made good money. Once he eventually left to set up his own business, the union moved in and the business eventually folded.

SMH has a comment piece on this today that lays the blame on a couple of things but cites the small local market and heavily critiscises the Unions.

"As the Productivity Commission made clear in its position paper, the country’s tiny market couldn’t sustain competitive production of commodity autos, and was being monstered by the explosion of Asian auto production in the past decade.
But the culture of the workplace was clearly a material reason for the company’s decision to pull out in 2017."

I understand the need to look after workers rights from exploitation but it seems to have gone too far the other way

[cardinal28 Member Find all posts View Profile Close cardinal28]

The cost of living keeps spiraling up, so the unions chase more money for the workers. So it goes on - a dog chasing its tail. I believe the 'Free Trade Agreements' also have a lot to do with it. We have just signed one with Korea and Japan is on the cards next. Just wait till we sign one with China!!!. Then we will see whats left of our manufacturing industries go to the wall.
Dobinsons suspensions in Rocky have been complaining for quite some time now the price of eletricity is killing them and they are looking at going oversea's.
Not a bright future.

[Mark from Brisbane Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mark from Brisbane]

I can see a time in the very near future where nothing of any consequence will be manufactured here.

There still has to be some stuff, like Building Trusses and the like, but mark my words everything else will be imported.

All we can hope for is a lot more people start drinking coffee because that's about the only jobs that will be left, coffee shops!!

[JoshF Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close JoshF]

http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2011...thailand-25754

[discoveraus Member Find all posts View Profile Close discoveraus]

Sorry all,

I did not mean to infer that Tony caused the problems of industry in general but he has the "mandate" to fix the problems. Tony has not been there for long enough to cause anything to happen yet, he has to wait until July I think.

Canberra in general seems to have no ideas on the problem. All parties are elected to Lead Us, not just the bunny who becomes Prime Minister on any particular day.

regards

Ross

[Danda Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Danda]

yep, costs of everything way too high here so off to good old india, china, wherever labor costs are really cheap

Yes and as much as I think Prado is the best on the planet I'd be the first to admit their WAY too expensive for what they are, I mean $75 K for a car is stupid in all honesty $55 would be nearer the mark but we're paying for a winner I guess................

[Ian Reid Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ian Reid]

Yes and as much as I think Prado is the best on the planet I'd be the first to admit their WAY too expensive for what they are, I mean $75 K for a car is stupid in all honesty $55 would be nearer the mark but we're paying for a winner I guess................

Well you could buy 3 great walls over afew years and maybe have somethng left at the end but i prefer to pay to have something a bit more robust that should last


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