Wholesale Suspension Product Questions etc

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Corine, as amts mentioned in this thread, http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...l=1#post385637 you can keep the TEMs system by using the existing shocks but you need to consider the existing Max Droop available to avoid "Topping" out your shocks after installing taller Springs

As Craig said, topping out is going to be a worry with a raised length spring on a standard length shock, if i had personally fitted these springs before on a heavy front weighted vehicle like yours i could be 100% sure. Not having done one as yet, i would probably advise the KTFS springs with the standard shocks, unless someone out there in Pradopoint land has done this as yet and can give us the answer??

Regards, Jason.

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Corine, as amts mentioned in this thread, http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...l=1#post385637 you can keep the TEMs system by using the existing shocks but you need to consider the existing Max Droop available to avoid "Topping" out your shocks after installing taller Springs

Thanks Craig however in that thread I asked how "max droop" is measured but didn't get an answer.

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Measurements are taken from bottom of rim to top of wheel arch on level ground.
Max droop = wheel off the ground - normal height

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The KTFS would be near equivalent to your factory springs.

In that case what advantage would I gain by using these over my current springs? I'm assuming the "800lb linear rate" spec on the KTFS/KTFR is stiffer/stronger than the Toyota factory spring?

The KTFR would raise the front by 40-50mm (compared to factory height) assuming you didn't have the bullbar. So with the bullbar and winch, the lift would be less.

So again how do I calculate the impact on my TEMS shocks? Will the "max droop" figure take care of this?

Max droop = wheel off the ground - normal height

Sorry Andrew I still don't get it. Should that read as "wheel off the ground minus normal height"?

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In that case what advantage would I gain by using these over my current springs? I'm assuming the "800lb linear rate" spec on the KTFS/KTFR is stiffer/stronger than the Toyota factory spring?

The KTFS-121 is slightly longer and slightly heavier spring rate than the factory spring. This might be enough to correct the current drop in height but you mention adding a winch later on.

What might help is if you measured your current ride height at all 4 wheels.

So again how do I calculate the impact on my TEMS shocks? Will the "max droop" figure take care of this?

You can get a small lift (not a full 2" lift) and still maintain the TEMS shocks. The max droop will help determine how high you can go with the lift.

Sorry Andrew I still don't get it. Should that read as "wheel off the ground minus normal height"?

Yep, you got it!

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What might help is if you measured your current ride height at all 4 wheels.

OK, will do. I have the setting on "sport" at the moment, should I set it to "comfort" before measuring?

Yep, you got it!

So I would need to raise the wheel off the ground with a jack so it drops down but doesn't touch the ground?

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OK, will do. I have the setting on "sport" at the moment, should I set it to "comfort" before measuring?

The comfort settings should not affect the ride height. But the height for the rear should be set to N.

So I would need to raise the wheel off the ground with a jack so it drops down but doesn't touch the ground?

Correct.

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Thanks Andrew, will come back once I've had a chance to make those measurements.

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Hi again, as above...... The KTFR-121 is an 800lb linear rate spring, which approx 20% firmer than the OE spring.


Regards, Jason.

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Jason,

You mention the KTFR-121 (the raised spring) is 20% firmer than the OE spring. What does that mean in practical terms? Andrew refers to the KTFS-121 spring (the standard one) in his post, how much firmer is it than the OE spring?

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Corine

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In practical terms it will stop riding like a boat to put it nicely. They ride a lot less bouncy than the standard spring.
The KTFR & KTFS are both the same Spring rate, which is approx 20% firmer that the Toyota spring.


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Yes, she does tend to bounce over bumps. I don't think I already asked about if replacing the front springs will I need to do anything with the rears?

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Yes, she does tend to bounce over bumps. I don't think I already asked about if replacing the front springs will I need to do anything with the rears?

If you are leaving it Standard Height, you could just replace the fronts if you wanted to.


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Hi Jason, I have a 150 turbo diesel Lwb in desperate need of a lift, I have an ARB steel winch bar with a warn xd 9000 and a dual battery set up. I am about to pull the rear fold down seats out and fit a custom set of drawers, we also tow a jayco from to time. Is the the kings and billstein package designed for this weight setup? I would like to achieve around a 50 mm lift.

Cheers

Josh

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Hi Jason, I have a 150 turbo diesel Lwb in desperate need of a lift, I have an ARB steel winch bar with a warn xd 9000 and a dual battery set up. I am about to pull the rear fold down seats out and fit a custom set of drawers, we also tow a jayco from to time. Is the the kings and billstein package designed for this weight setup? I would like to achieve around a 50 mm lift.

Cheers

Josh

Hi Josh.
The Bilsteins i have listed will work fine, but we will just have to upgrade to the HD Springs to suit the extra weight you have over the front end on yours. It is no extra cost to go with the HD Spring.
With the rear end, we would need to work out the weight coming out compared to the weight going in to see if you would need the HD rear spring. If it runs fairly lightly most of the time in the rear except when loaded up for a trip with the Jayco on, maybe a lighter spring with airbags would be a better option for everyday comfort.

Regards, Jason.