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  • #76
    OK I'll try and get some up soon. To clarify for you & others the PZQ.. part number is for the winch assembly not the Sov bar!! I don't often use (very rarely) my winch but it goes fine for me. As far as I can read if you see Superwinch it's basically a genuine Toyota accessory so for guys like my car they (bar & winch) got fitted from the factory (??). I read on a different thread about Sov alloy bullbars..without the cradle they are soft but with that winch cradle that front section would cause some serious damage..a Roo?? Not different to steel but its not all over the bar! If you have the Superwinch..no need to buy a new one??!!!
    [SIZE=1]03 TD 120 Grande, L&R weathershields, f&r deflectors, Sov bar Amts rad b.pl, TJM front B.P, Uniden UH7760NB Kaymar LED worklight, ARB 47l, lifestyle rack & Milford C. Barrier, 9500llb Superwinch, IPF 900SR spots, T. Dog 40mm adj shocks/struts, coils, airbagman OA6011 airbags, 2.75" Beaudesert exhaust, 300w inverter, 1L Catch can,outback rec points, R.R awning, dual batteries redarc SBI12 Cooper LT A/T3's 265/65, Safari snorkel, Hilux jets, Brains TG150, Leigh's booster diode [/SIZE]

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    • #77
      I'm going to be fitting a Runva 11XP winch tommorow. I already have the winch cradle. I'll let you know how I go and will take some pics along the way.
      2005 GXL KZJ120 3.0TD. Goodies: 2" TJM XGS Gold Suspension Lift, Safari Snorkel, TJM Underbody Protection, Sovereign Bullbar, AMTS radiator guard, spare wheel spacer & soverign bar LED lights, Runva 11XP Winch, Front Recovery Points, BRC Quad Breathers, Rhino-Rack Pioneer Platform, IPF spotties converted to HID, Drifta Drawers D2D-WT, Autosafe Cargo Barrier, Uniden UHF, 265/70/17 BFG AT's.

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      • #78
        That would be great djnapkin. Have you already fitted the cradle or is that being done as well?
        [B]Tasmania 2015 GTG Committee Member[/B] 2005 Prado Pilbara, Sovereign Bar, Driver & passenger weathershields, UHF TX3220, Spare wheel spaces, Lifestyle rack, Genuine front & midrow seatcovers, Genuine front & midrow rubber floor mats, ARB 47 litre fridge/freezer, Hilux washer jets, BF Goodridge A/T, Radiator protection plate, Dual battery tray and isolator, ARB 2.5m awning, Rhino heavy duty areo bars, MSA rear wheel bin, MAXTRAX

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        • #79
          Ive vot the runve 11xp on my beast. Its a tight fit but it does get in there.
          The control box is hidden behind the bar.
          I control lead plugs into the box thru the vented/slotted part of the sov bar.
          Mind you, my bar is one of the later designed ones snd the vents are a plastic insert not cast alloy and part of the bar its self.
          I should get a few pics up for yas.
          HERS - KZJ120, BILSTIEN / KINGS, AMTS GEAR, RHINO GEAR, OUTBACK DRAWERS ETC ETC ETC
          MINE - HDJ78 RV TROOPY. 1HDFTE. TWIN FACTORY LOCKERS. STEINBAUER POWER. OME LIFT. BEAST.

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          • #80
            OK, I took some pics..but they really don't say an awful lot, mainly because I cannot get to the cradle because of my amts radiator bash plate.

            http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...tor+bash+plate #post 44 and 45.

            I really did not want to take these off as it (Rad plate) is attached to a heavy aftermarket TJM bash plate. With only me, they are a right palaver to get off but also to put back on! The cradle is really entombed within the Sovereign bar, the 9500llb Superwinch was installed with the bar (by dealer/factory) altogether but many years ago now!

            I know the steel wire has not been tensioned properly but I've not had the time or found a large enough tree to tension it altogether since my battery went!!? I plan on doing it on my next trip??!! If you need some better pics I can try with my flash camera.... Hope they help!?













            Cheers for now.
            macaroon1
            Advanced Member
            Last edited by macaroon1; 01-05-2013, 06:05 PM.
            [SIZE=1]03 TD 120 Grande, L&R weathershields, f&r deflectors, Sov bar Amts rad b.pl, TJM front B.P, Uniden UH7760NB Kaymar LED worklight, ARB 47l, lifestyle rack & Milford C. Barrier, 9500llb Superwinch, IPF 900SR spots, T. Dog 40mm adj shocks/struts, coils, airbagman OA6011 airbags, 2.75" Beaudesert exhaust, 300w inverter, 1L Catch can,outback rec points, R.R awning, dual batteries redarc SBI12 Cooper LT A/T3's 265/65, Safari snorkel, Hilux jets, Brains TG150, Leigh's booster diode [/SIZE]

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            • #81
              More pics??



              Cheers.
              [SIZE=1]03 TD 120 Grande, L&R weathershields, f&r deflectors, Sov bar Amts rad b.pl, TJM front B.P, Uniden UH7760NB Kaymar LED worklight, ARB 47l, lifestyle rack & Milford C. Barrier, 9500llb Superwinch, IPF 900SR spots, T. Dog 40mm adj shocks/struts, coils, airbagman OA6011 airbags, 2.75" Beaudesert exhaust, 300w inverter, 1L Catch can,outback rec points, R.R awning, dual batteries redarc SBI12 Cooper LT A/T3's 265/65, Safari snorkel, Hilux jets, Brains TG150, Leigh's booster diode [/SIZE]

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              • #82
                Thanks for the pics. Shows a little bit but better than nothing.
                [B]Tasmania 2015 GTG Committee Member[/B] 2005 Prado Pilbara, Sovereign Bar, Driver & passenger weathershields, UHF TX3220, Spare wheel spaces, Lifestyle rack, Genuine front & midrow seatcovers, Genuine front & midrow rubber floor mats, ARB 47 litre fridge/freezer, Hilux washer jets, BF Goodridge A/T, Radiator protection plate, Dual battery tray and isolator, ARB 2.5m awning, Rhino heavy duty areo bars, MSA rear wheel bin, MAXTRAX

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                • #83
                  Yeah..I know they don't show much. Even know I think where is that pic from? I only put the plate on a few months ago. Before then I could have gone underneath and got far better access. If you need any more specific ones of certain areas, let me know and I'll see what I can do. The cam phone has no flash so I was playing it by ear. At least you know a Superwinch goes on the Sov bar...and I believe a Warn too, with a bit if giggery pokery!
                  [SIZE=1]03 TD 120 Grande, L&R weathershields, f&r deflectors, Sov bar Amts rad b.pl, TJM front B.P, Uniden UH7760NB Kaymar LED worklight, ARB 47l, lifestyle rack & Milford C. Barrier, 9500llb Superwinch, IPF 900SR spots, T. Dog 40mm adj shocks/struts, coils, airbagman OA6011 airbags, 2.75" Beaudesert exhaust, 300w inverter, 1L Catch can,outback rec points, R.R awning, dual batteries redarc SBI12 Cooper LT A/T3's 265/65, Safari snorkel, Hilux jets, Brains TG150, Leigh's booster diode [/SIZE]

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                  • #84
                    Well sorry guys, I completely forgot the pics, just went in gung-ho and did it not thinking too much. She's all in now. Some tips:

                    -I used an engine crane to hold the bullbar in place while I was working. That way I could take it back from the car about 100mm which was enough to get the cradle in without undoing the wiring on the bullbar. That said when you are installing the cradle or winch it is definately a 2 man job. 1 holding the cradle/winch, the other bolting it up.
                    -I found the 4x bolts that came with the cradle intended to hold the winch in were too short by about 5mm so I had to get some replacements.
                    -Think very carefully about where you rotate your winch gearbox so that the engage lever is in a suitable spot. I didn't take into account the extra little struts that go from the top of the cradle to the chassis mounts. Set your lever so it will be a good 45 degrees towards the radiator or more. I thought I was going to have to pull the winch out to rotate the gearbox and was about to cry until my mate suggested we take the washer out on the bolt that holds the strut and that gave me the bees dick I needed for the lever to clear the bolt head.
                    -I was missing the extra shims that were supposed to come with the cradle kit. These are placed between the cradle and bullbar to level out your bull bar so the gaps are straight and equal on both sides of the car. Luckily the ones that were already in there levelled it and evened it up.
                    2005 GXL KZJ120 3.0TD. Goodies: 2" TJM XGS Gold Suspension Lift, Safari Snorkel, TJM Underbody Protection, Sovereign Bullbar, AMTS radiator guard, spare wheel spacer & soverign bar LED lights, Runva 11XP Winch, Front Recovery Points, BRC Quad Breathers, Rhino-Rack Pioneer Platform, IPF spotties converted to HID, Drifta Drawers D2D-WT, Autosafe Cargo Barrier, Uniden UHF, 265/70/17 BFG AT's.

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                    • #85
                      Some good tips there. Which winch did you put in?
                      [B]Tasmania 2015 GTG Committee Member[/B] 2005 Prado Pilbara, Sovereign Bar, Driver & passenger weathershields, UHF TX3220, Spare wheel spaces, Lifestyle rack, Genuine front & midrow seatcovers, Genuine front & midrow rubber floor mats, ARB 47 litre fridge/freezer, Hilux washer jets, BF Goodridge A/T, Radiator protection plate, Dual battery tray and isolator, ARB 2.5m awning, Rhino heavy duty areo bars, MSA rear wheel bin, MAXTRAX

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by djnapkin View Post
                        -Think very carefully about where you rotate your winch gearbox so that the engage lever is in a suitable spot.
                        Good advice....Mine came with the clutch lever facing down facing towards the ground, making it susceptible to being knocked off in the arrival angle. After years a mechanic managed to rotate it round 180 deg and locate it in the bars 'vacant space' near the rad and fabricate a bracket for the guider...its now behind the bar but I can still access it....I think it was a DIY botch job, not thinking ahead!!!
                        [SIZE=1]03 TD 120 Grande, L&R weathershields, f&r deflectors, Sov bar Amts rad b.pl, TJM front B.P, Uniden UH7760NB Kaymar LED worklight, ARB 47l, lifestyle rack & Milford C. Barrier, 9500llb Superwinch, IPF 900SR spots, T. Dog 40mm adj shocks/struts, coils, airbagman OA6011 airbags, 2.75" Beaudesert exhaust, 300w inverter, 1L Catch can,outback rec points, R.R awning, dual batteries redarc SBI12 Cooper LT A/T3's 265/65, Safari snorkel, Hilux jets, Brains TG150, Leigh's booster diode [/SIZE]

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                        • #87
                          Runva 11xp. Have only used it to pull some stumps out in the backyard, all good so far.
                          2005 GXL KZJ120 3.0TD. Goodies: 2" TJM XGS Gold Suspension Lift, Safari Snorkel, TJM Underbody Protection, Sovereign Bullbar, AMTS radiator guard, spare wheel spacer & soverign bar LED lights, Runva 11XP Winch, Front Recovery Points, BRC Quad Breathers, Rhino-Rack Pioneer Platform, IPF spotties converted to HID, Drifta Drawers D2D-WT, Autosafe Cargo Barrier, Uniden UHF, 265/70/17 BFG AT's.

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                          • #88
                            hey guys i was just wondering where i could put my hands on a winch cradle for the soveriegn bar these days as i have just gotten my first prado and am in dire need to do it up starting at the front and working my way back. Any help would be greatly apprecciated
                            thanks.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by mervyn lurka nelson View Post
                              hey guys i was just wondering where i could put my hands on a winch cradle for the soveriegn bar these days as i have just gotten my first prado and am in dire need to do it up starting at the front and working my way back. Any help would be greatly apprecciated
                              thanks.
                              Toyota. I tried ARB, TJM and OL I even tried a wreckers. Everyone said Toyota. I paid $220 a couple of weeks ago.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by mervyn lurka nelson View Post
                                hey guys i was just wondering where i could put my hands on a winch cradle for the soveriegn bar these days
                                Very Hard now. see post #38
                                http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...791#post473791

                                Toyota Aus no longer have stock left and allegedly will never have them back....the bars are not made anymore. Breakers may now be your best bet.. Hope it helps

                                Edit...see next page..
                                macaroon1
                                Advanced Member
                                Last edited by macaroon1; 18-07-2014, 01:12 PM. Reason: new info
                                [SIZE=1]03 TD 120 Grande, L&R weathershields, f&r deflectors, Sov bar Amts rad b.pl, TJM front B.P, Uniden UH7760NB Kaymar LED worklight, ARB 47l, lifestyle rack & Milford C. Barrier, 9500llb Superwinch, IPF 900SR spots, T. Dog 40mm adj shocks/struts, coils, airbagman OA6011 airbags, 2.75" Beaudesert exhaust, 300w inverter, 1L Catch can,outback rec points, R.R awning, dual batteries redarc SBI12 Cooper LT A/T3's 265/65, Safari snorkel, Hilux jets, Brains TG150, Leigh's booster diode [/SIZE]

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